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Ray Sachs

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OK, as an early adopter, I may as well start this one off. Here's a bunch of stuff from Philly yesterday. A mix of river scenes (the City just opened a "boardwalk" over a stretch of the Schuylkill Riverfront last week, so I spent some time there), streetscapes, architecture, and a bit of my usual street shooting...

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G7X at 24mm by ramboorider1, on Flickr

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Philly G7X-586 by ramboorider1, on Flickr

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Philly G7X-283-Edit by ramboorider1, on Flickr

-Ray
 
I have done a few shots of my designated model :)

All shots in JPEG and didn't edit at all.

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Ray - #1 - some beautiful shots, #2 - that walkway looks great (have to check it out the next time we are down in Philly) - and most important #3 - you did not get any shots of our favorite brunch place Sabrina's Cafe!!!
Thanks for sharing, Steve
 
Ray - #1 - some beautiful shots, #2 - that walkway looks great (have to check it out the next time we are down in Philly) - and most important #3 - you did not get any shots of our favorite brunch place Sabrina's Cafe!!!
Thanks for sharing, Steve
Thanks Steve. I'd actually never heardof Sabrina's Cafe, but just looked it up and realized I have been to their University City place once. But not for brunch. I'll have to keep that in mind. Maybe the one down by the Italian Market...

-Ray
 
So, Ray... so far your observations about the G7X have been generally positive, but also measured, as you have continued to learn and use the camera. What would you say at this point? A "strongly recommended"? The results certainly look good to me. This is the first camera that I can see replacing my Fuji XF1 as my truly pocketable all-rounder. Even the RX100 and RX100 II didn't move me enough.
 
So, Ray... so far your observations about the G7X have been generally positive, but also measured, as you have continued to learn and use the camera. What would you say at this point? A "strongly recommended"? The results certainly look good to me. This is the first camera that I can see replacing my Fuji XF1 as my truly pocketable all-rounder. Even the RX100 and RX100 II didn't move me enough.

I'm real positive about it Steve. I mean, it is what it is. I don't look for high end optical performance out of a compact zoom or for gobs and gobs of soft creamy bokeh. But short of extreme pixel peeping, I think the image quality is very very good, and exceptional for a pocket camera. It's good in low light, exceptional for a pocket camera. The lens is a little soft at the extreme focal lengths wide open but quite sharp stopped down about two thirds of a stop. It's zoom range is what I was looking for with a good 24mm wide angle and a useable portrait length of 100mm.

It solved my biggest objection to the RX100, by providing shooter friendly controls that makes the camera a blast to shoot with. Anything I've wanted to do with this camera I could figure out an intuitive way to do it, to get in and out of different shooting setups quickly and easily, etc. Stuff that took kludges and workarounds on the RX100 come really naturally and easily on this one. And, to my surprise, it's also a really good street camera for my specific set of street shooting preferences. This may not mean anything to many others, but it's sort of an acid test for me. A lot of really good cameras don't allow me to shoot the way I like to on the street. This does. So if it can satisfy me in this area where I'm VERY demanding, it's probably got a lot of other tricks up it's sleave too for most other types of shooting.

I've never really been happy with any compact fixed lens zoom as a regular camera before. I think the primary reason is that the gap in IQ between those and my other gear was just SOOOO big that I almost never grabbed the compact. The RX100 had the IQ but it was a camera I never enjoyed using at all, so it didn't meet the test either. The G7X is the first of these cameras that has the combination of IQ, zoom range, and shooting characteristics to make me want to pick it up pretty often. The dropoff in IQ is still there, but this passes some sort of threshold of "good enough" that I think I'll be happy to grab it for a lot of situations where I'd rather not carry more gear. A threshold that cameras like the LX5/7 and even Fuji X10, as much fun as they could be to shoot with, didn't meet. And it's fun to shoot with.

Time will tell how much shooting I'll end up doing with it and how much of a hit my other cameras take in terms of shooting time. My wife and I are going to New York in a couple of weeks and I'm thinking about just taking the G7X. Mostly because I don't want this trip to be a photo-centric trip and I know if I bring my better gear, it will. I'd imagine I'll come back from that trip with a pretty good idea of where this camera is gonna fit. It's still possible that in six months it will have taken up a dust gathering place on the shelf and not get much use, as has been the fate of similar compacts. This one is better enough that I don't THINK that will happen. But I can't make any guarantees.

But based on my experience so far, I'd give it a "strongly recommended" assuming it meets your preferences for things like focal range, viewing options, etc, etc, etc.

-Ray
 
A few quick snaps before going to work yesterday:

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Images all raw to TIFF, then to PS. It is Canon engineering at its best, eg very well tought camera but with a lens that depends on heavy lens digital corrections. The lens is worst in close conditions/macro due to field curvature and corners are not being covered fully... I guess that is the reason Leica reduced the f stop for macros with new 23mm f1.7 camera. I used RX100 for 2 years and didn't see the IQ/glow problems that I see with g7X, that one is also digitally corrected but better then G7X. The other camera makers at least cover the sensor with the lens, eg RX100/new LX100. It's what it is eg very good controls and at full tele dof is nice as you can see in the bird shot (it was in the center, cropped a little the left and bottom). However, the camera refused to af on the bird several times, af'd on the tree. So I had to af down to the barrier to catch focus and shot it. It is blurry a little at the head as it was a low light/cloudy day, but everything looks much better resized for web. I can see people buying this and returning it with the glowy macro shots or close ups. For general use it is nice pocket camera, but the sensor IQ is underutilized with the lens...
 
I can see people buying this and returning it with the glowy macro shots or close ups. For general use it is nice pocket camera, but the sensor IQ is underutilized with the lens...
Didn't know you were gonna go for it. So are you going to keep it? I actually am fine with the macros - just have to stop down a little bit. I find that I'm really happy with the IQ throughout the range but at the extremes of the focal range, it helps to stop down to f3.5 or so. Which is OK with me, I'd rather have the range and the speed and get the shot, but understand the limits so I can dial in the best IQ when possible. I think I posted these previously - they're both at f4 which I find to be a sweet spot pretty much throughout the focal range:

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Autumn Begins by ramboorider1, on Flickr

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-Ray
 
Thanks Steve. I'd actually never heardof Sabrina's Cafe, but just looked it up and realized I have been to their University City place once. But not for brunch. I'll have to keep that in mind. Maybe the one down by the Italian Market...

-Ray

That's the one (the one by the Italian Market) that we first visited years ago after one of our daughter's best friends, who moved to Philly, told us about it. GREAT stuffed french toast!!!
 
A few from our annual Chili Cook-off, the last of the street fairs for the year. My town is lousy with these things and I'm frankly getting a little sick of shooting them, but it's a tough habit to break and every now and then I get something worth keeping. But a lot of the same people are turning up in my shots from street fair to street fair and that's kind of weird. Oh well, last one until next spring I think...

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Not the quiet reflective moment it appears to be. She was taking photos of the crowd from this window of her food truck and I walked up with my camera raised trying to get her while she was shooting, But she'd just put her camera down and was looking at it and saw me looking all wistful, but then about a half second later broke into a broad grin for being caught at her own game. So this doesn't reflect the moment, but I like it anyway, for what it wasn't...

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This is the kind of thing I have this camera for. The street stuff I could have done as well (and better in a few shots) with the Coolpix A. But being able to zoom into 85 or 100mm is a really nice option to have from time to time...

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-Ray
 
Sony is charging $225+tax+shipping to fix RX100 which is nearly same as buying a new one... That is what they did eg sending me a refurb lens when I sent my Sony 50mm to fix under warranty. I am sure I will be more happy with Nikon A/GR IQ on the wide side, but I need a small pocket camera for daily use and occasional work use. I picked the cheaper one from RX100 III vs G7X as it gives me more fast lens and range but I'll see how much of this will be useful. I used it more today. Usually subjects in the center like your example I think f2.8 is even acceptable, but then subjects covering a larger area in the close range has problem with the fall of even with smaller apertures... AF has some backfocus issues like older m43 cameras. I guess m43 spoiled me and Sony is also catching up with them so lately I am using m43/A7R choices with no P&S.

Didn't know you were gonna go for it. So are you going to keep it? I actually am fine with the macros - just have to stop down a little bit. I find that I'm really happy with the IQ throughout the range but at the extremes of the focal range, it helps to stop down to f3.5 or so. Which is OK with me, I'd rather have the range and the speed and get the shot, but understand the limits so I can dial in the best IQ when possible. I think I posted these previously - they're both at f4 which I find to be a sweet spot pretty much throughout the focal range:

-Ray
 
Shots from today's walk:
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Some help here (I hope it is not the wrong place to ask):

As far as I understand, the main difference between the G7X and the RX100 "Mx" in terms of IQ are:

- zooming or in 100% (pixel peeping), the corners of the G7X in 24mm (or close to that) and in 100mm WITH aperture completely open are less sharp, more upscaled. Or differences are more apparent than this (doesn't look like for the photos here)? (24mm G7X vs M3; 100mm G7X vs M1 or M2)

- if you shoot 24mm or 100mm (or around it) stopping down a little bit, sharpness is pretty much the same.

- other parts of the focal range, say between 27-90 are pretty much the same IQ.

I believe I understand the other differences (AF in the RX is faster, EVF...), don't want to start a debate, just to clarify this. I already have an RX100 M2, like it a lot, but I am a sucker for tilting LCD, and wouldn't mind having a different camera maker to try it out as I already have 3 Sonys. But want to understand this point above.

Appreciate any help. Thanks!

PS: The Canon does not have Time Lapse, right?
 
There are bunch of reviews and samples available. It is a more photographer camera but with more compromised lens esp for close range. My experience matches the below review:

lesnumeriques gx7 review

They found the corners of the G7 X to be quite soft (worse compared to RX100 III) when focussing < 1 meter at 24mm (oddly, with best results at the widest aperture for that particular FL, which apparently was confirmed as normal by Canon), while the center was OK. Things got better with increasing FL, making the G7 X better suited for "objects between 2 and 3 meters away", as confirmed to them by Canon. They found the sharpness of the G7 X not to be at the same level (not as good) as the RX100 I/II/III across the FL range, but CA was quite well controlled.

So it behaves better with further subjects, eg like the street shots that Ray shot...
 
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