Camera/Lens/Accessories Deal-Breakers.

Absolute features a camera must have, in other words, dealbreakers if they are missing:
  • Electronic first curtain. The Panasonic GH2 lacked that, hopeless with any serious telephoto lens.
  • IBIS (in-body image stabilization). Come on Fuji, make us an X100VI with IBIS!
  • Electronic viewfinder.
  • Peaking assigneable to custom button. The main reason I upgraded from the Sony A7R2 to A7R4 :eek:.
Not an absolute dealbreaker, but I hate to see that any newer Sony full-frame camera is heavier than its predecessor. Fuji did the right thing with its X-T5 being lighter than the X-T4!
 
I struggle to think about what sort of dealbreakers I might have. The only thing I could think of is shutter shock, but I don't think it's an intentional feature that designers are lining up to implement in new cameras.

OLPF, sluggish operation, SLR, fake rangefinder, heavy, fully articulating screen, they all have been on my "dealbreaker" list at some point but yet I've gone and bought cameras since that feature some of these.
 
I am definitely looking for deal breakers while considering a new camera and really had my sight on the Fuji XT-5 even though it meant a complete system upgrade from Olympus ,but shooting my em5mkll with the battery grip over the last six years I just feel unwilling to give up the ability to shoot in portrait without lopping my hand over the camera to reach the shutter . Since they eliminated the electrical contacts on the bottom of the camera that takes a lot of the speed and ease out of 40 to 60% of my shots . It is sometimes the little things that can make a difference.
 
For a Mirrorless camera: Anything less than the ~3.5MDot viewfinder is a deal breaker. My 12 year old Olympus EP2 has a 1.5Mdot finder. There is no reason for a manufacturer to stick an old ~2.5MDot viewfinder into any camera made in the last 5 years, yet some do. The Olympus EVF4 is almost 10 years old now, 2.4MDot. I use a lot of adapted lenses. The EP2 finder was barely useable for fine focus, and magnified mode was required. That is annoying. 2.5MDot is not a significant upgrade over the 12 year old EVF of the Olympus EP2 to be considered. The Nikon Z5 has a 3.7MDot finder, is priced under $1000. The second strong consideration for me is BSI CMOS as it is more efficient at accepting light at sharp angles, required for legacy lenses designed for rangefinder cameras. My next camera will probably be a Nikon Z6-II, but I suspect Nikon will need to update it and the Z7-II soon. I've bought 3 Z-Mount adapters, including one for my Canon 50mm F0.95 in Canon Breech-Lock mount. That lens cost me $200 when bought 20 years ago.
 
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For a Mirrorless camera: Anything less than the ~3.5MDot viewfinder is a deal breaker. My 12 year old Olympus EP2 has a 1.5Mdot finder. There is no reason for a manufacturer to stick an old ~2.5MDot viewfinder into any camera made in the last 5 years, yet some do. The Olympus EVF4 is almost 10 years old now, 2.4MDot. I use a lot of adapted lenses. The EP2 finder was barely useable for fine focus, and magnified mode was required. That is annoying. 2.5MDot is not a significant upgrade over the 12 year old EVF of the Olympus EP2 to be considered. The Nikon Z5 has a 3.7MDot finder, is priced under $1000. The second strong consideration for me is BSI CMOS as it is more efficient at accepting light at sharp angles, required for legacy lenses designed for rangefinder cameras. My next camera will probably be a Nikon Z6-II, but I suspect Nikon will need to update it and the Z7-II soon. I've bought 3 Z-Mount adapters, including one for my Canon 50mm F0.95 in Canon Breech-Lock mount. That lens cost me $200 when bought 20 years ago.
The 2.36 K EVF is still going strong these days. It seems to be first in line as a means of cost control.
 
The 2.36 K EVF is still going strong these days. It seems to be first in line as a means of cost control.
Somehow Nikon manages to put a 3.7MDot EVF in a 24MPixel full-frame camera (The Z5) for under $1000. That should be considered the entry-level spec for any camera being considered. The 2.36MDot finder- should be for cameras significantly below $1000.
 
Nice idea for a thread, fun reading through responses.

For me...

1) Camera and controls have to fit my hand/ fingers, and I have to be able to use the controls.

2) OVF/ EVF, and it has to be useable without causing excessive eye strain or headaches.

3) FAS is a no-go on any camera used primarily for landscapes with an L-bracket. Otherwise, I might not like the FAS but it doesn't really matter as the screen tends to be left as a fixed screen.

Other things might be on the list depending upon specific use cases.
 
Deal breaker for me? Pretty much anything north of $3k.
I've been struggling to identify things that I'd strictly consider a deal-breaker, and I couldn't really come up with anything, but this is exactly it.

Also, thus far, electronic-only shutters are something I don't think I'd be able to tolerate, unless it was a global shutter.
 
Count me in with the no viewfinder as a deal breaker for a camera that I will use in a serious fashion.

Also in the camp where I need mechanical shutter unless it's electronic up to Z9 levels.

In camera raw conversion with ability to do basic edits is a must as well. I like to do this on vacation or if I'm with a group who wants a quick photo shared. I've been really pleased with the nikon implementation on the Z6
 
Interesting thread.

Offhand, I don't think I have any deal-breakers. EVF, viewfinder, screen, whatever... I can pretty much live with or without any of the above if I like the camera, and it takes good pictures for me, and (crucially) the process of using it is enjoyable to me in some way.
My only criterium which comes close to being a deal-breaker (though I've violated it, as well, on occasion), is a variation on what both Chris (@MountainMan79) and Andrew (@agentlossing) both mentioned: I tend to get unreasonably nervous if or when I find myself walking around with a camera slung over my shoulder which costs more than my car does. (Note: I'm not talking about the currently inflated automobile prices, both used and new, prevalent in the U.S., now, but rather the prices of some of the semi-affordable but rather used older cars I've owned or driven over the past several decades, including but not limited to Subarus, Suzukis, Isuzus with an old Saab for good measure).

Or, here's a different way to say it: on one or two horrifying occasions, I've either accidentally lost or accidentally dropped (and damaged) cameras I cared about at the time. Not a good thing, when it happens. But from an idealized Zen-like perspective (on the transitory nature of personal possessions), those losses are much easier for me to accept when the camera didn't cost me an arm and a leg.

But it's all relative.
Truth be told, apart from what I just wrote, I don't think I really have any serious deal-breakers. Except perhaps wondering if I need to rob a bank to buy a particular camera or lens... that could be an issue.
 
Back for round two, accessories!

Over-padded bags, they are atrocious, as is too short slings.

I have trouble understanding why the camera manufacturers even bother adding the OEM slings, never had one of those even close to long enough, which also goes for most bag slings as well.

Peak Design slide lite and leash was a revelation when it comes to comfortable carrying, and I cant really see myself branching out from those. Their wrist-straps on the other hand has some room for improvements. I would have liked a proper soft one, leash width, singel layer, with a textile wrist adjuster. :unsure:
 
I forget that not all do now
I've never had, or even used, a camera with IBIS. So I forget most do have it. :cool:

I always use [the iPhone 12] at the native FL of the lenses, as the digital zoom causes a significant reduction in IQ.
The Samsung I have is 12+12+64 MP with handoffs where the crop's taken it down to 3 MP and 4.2 MP and I'll push it to about 4.7 MP on the tele if I have to. Much of what I do doesn't really need more than 2–4 MP and I've been good with 8+ MP for coming up on 20 years now. So it's... adequate. I try to compose around the low spots when I can, though.
 
The E-PM2, VF-4 and 14-42 EZ pancake zoom lives nicely in a pocket and the passenger seat cover kangaroo pouch on the front squab in the car.
I know things are...different in Australia, so I can understand seat covers made from kangaroo pouches, but your cars are equipped with two pigeons (squabs)? One in front, one in back?!?!?!

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I know things are...different in Australia, so I can understand seat covers made from kangaroo pouches, but your cars are equipped with two pigeons (squabs)? One in front, one in back?!?!?!

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It's my term for the pouch on the front of both driver's and passenger's sheepskin seat covers, the part just under one's knees. Useful for all sorts of things. I keep my car log book in my driver's side one, and E-PM2+14-42 EZ and VF-4 in the passenger side one.
 
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