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The damn thing is back in my good graces. I'd boxed it up to send back but it kept beckoning to me from the box. So I played a bit more this morning and figured out a couple of ways to streamline the processing and sequence it with my other stuff so that it doesn't drive me bat-crazy while its exporting. Now its coming to Italy again. I'll probably change my mind on this several more times between now and our departure on Thursday. But for now, its coming with us.

Its also causing me to do un-natural things, like take photos of flowers. I HATE photos of flowers - always have, thought I always would. But lately I find myself making them. Change of life? Beats me. I prefer to chalk it up to crazy amazing resolution...

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-Ray
 
Mix of shots from different cameras (DP1M and DP2M)

Gary


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I really like the second and third monochrome shots - are you processing those in SPP or something later in the process?

A more general question - how much do people process in SPP and how much do you do later with an exported TIFF in Lightroom or whatever? I think my initial irritation was from trying to do too much in SPP. This morning's batch I just brought in as shot, added a couple tenths of fill light to them as a batch, and then exported the whole thing as a batch. Saved a lot of time and irritation and the files still seemed plenty workable in Lightroom. I'd obviously do it differently for any high ISO B&W (which have to be processed in SPP to bias the color towed the blue layer). But this minimal SPP routine probably means the difference between using this camera and not using it...

Thanks,

-Ray
 
Ray Sachs said:
I really like the second and third monochrome shots - are you processing those in SPP or something later in the process?

A more general question - how much do people process in SPP and how much do you do later with an exported TIFF in Lightroom or whatever? I think my initial irritation was from trying to do too much in SPP. This morning's batch I just brought in as shot, added a couple tenths of fill light to them as a batch, and then exported the whole thing as a batch. Saved a lot of time and irritation and the files still seemed plenty workable in Lightroom. I'd obviously do it differently for any high ISO B&W (which have to be processed in SPP to bias the color towed the blue layer). But this minimal SPP routine probably means the difference between using this camera and not using it...

Thanks,

-Ray
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Maybe 80% of stuff I do in spp is batched. I created default profiles to use w/ the batch save processing as well.

The two shots u like we're batched w/ just the normal default profile.. However, they used a monochrom path start to finish from the camera all the way thru spp, so it was the default monochrom profile for them. They were then imported to Aperture for my normal work on them.

Gary
 
Garylh said:
Maybe 80% of stuff I do in spp is batched. I created default profiles to use w/ the batch save processing as well.
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So if you open a card full of shots from the camera, cull out the stuff you don't like, and lets say you're going to export 40-50 for additional work. Do you group them in 2-3 batches and apply a different default profile (based on the basic type of light in the shot or something) to each batch as you export it to TIFF? Or do you group the similar shots, work on one or two and develop a profile for the whole set that way, and then save them with that profile?

I couldn't open that video you embedded, but I looked for it - was it the one using SPP, Aperture, and Viveza?

Thanks again,

-Ray
 
A little of both Ray. I batch by the type iof profiling I need done. I name the profile to be descriptive enough. If I don't yet have a profile for what I want to do, then I bring in the first one and create a new save profile.

I usually batch about 16 or so max. For me there is a bug in app where it will hang and crash when I get over 16 files in a single batch run, but others I know have done as many as 30 something w/o trouble.

My default setup is to tell spp to save to same folder where it opened the file.

I will check later tonight in terms of the video link. I am away from my computer right now.

The video was about using the new monochrom mode in spp.

Gary
 
Thanks Gary - I just watched it. Doing it that way, with that much processing on a shot by shot basis with SPP is what would probably drive me away from the camera I'm afraid. But, so far, I'm having some luck just doing some basic adjustments to the color files in batches, exporting the bunch of them to TIFF, importing them into Lightroom, and doing most of the kinds of adjustments he was doing in SPP in Lightroom, or in one of the Nik Plugins instead.I'm not sure I'm getting quite the optimal quality, but its extremely good. I'll experiment a bit more, but I don't see using SPP as a soup to nuts processor - probably just a front end for me. But I'll see. In any case, thanks much for the suggestions and help...

-Ray
 
No problem.. Good luck w/ it Ray. I really don't do as much as the video as well. Mostly once I have that profile created, its off to batch processing. The video showed me enough to know what could be done for that other 20% or so I needed to take thru one on one work in spp..

Gary
 
I just read this from Michael Reichmann on Luminous Landscapes:

"As for what I do in SPP, the answer is, as little as possible. I find just about every tool in SPP inferior to those in Lightroom (or Capture One or Aperture for that matter). The only thing that really matters, and that one that one must do in SPP is white balance. I then may do some other minor adjustments, but if the file is properly exposed, I just adjust white balance and then Export the file to Lightroom."

I think I'm backing into accepting this philosophy because it confirms my hopes and biases. And because if its good enough for Michael Reichmann, it's gonna be good enough for me. And most importantly, because if I take this approach to a quick and simplified work flow, there's a very good chance I'll continue to USE this camera rather than pick something else up for its simplicity.

He also explains a nice little semi-automated routine for getting files to automatically import and open in Lightroom as soon as he saves them as TIFFs for SPP that I'll probably also borrow from him.

-Ray
 
Hi Ray

Good to see you persevering, presumably you still think it is worth it, in spite of the Nikon being almost as good?

Also thanks for generating this conversation as it is helping me too.

Lee
 
Sapphie said:
Hi Ray

Good to see you persevering, presumably you still think it is worth it, in spite of the Nikon being almost as good?

Also thanks for generating this conversation as it is helping me too.

Lee
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I don't know if its long-term worth it to me. I sort of doubt it for most of the shooting I do on a daily basis around home. But if its ever going to be worth it, its during this month we're about to spend on the Amalfi Coast. And I have this two-month loaner so I'm going to take advantage of it and see how good I can get at the routine. I suspect for some of the daytime scenery I'll be shooting in Italy, I'll be using the DP1M and the RX1 almost exclusively. I'll likely take the Nikon out if there are any few street shooting opportunities and along with the RX1 for low light shooting. But if I adopt Michael Reichmann's processing philosophy and routine for the DP1M, that should make it as easy as possible, so I suspect I'll be extremely glad to have brought it along.

I'll let you know, though...

-Ray
 
I took the Sigma out for pretty much all day yesterday. Ended up with about 120 images, went through them in SPP and processed them in two easy batches - the second batch was large enough to start converting and then went to take a shower and do some laundry and came back and it was still running. But it worked - by the time I was ready to work on them, they were ready to be opened in Lightroom. The Nikon is the better all around camera for me, but on a trip like this, where my shooting is a bit more laid back and speed is absolutely NOT of the essence, the Sigma is a great tool to capture the landscapes that you inevitably shoot a lot of in such a beautiful place. A few from yesterday (also posted in the Italy thread), with one sunset pic from the evening before... Unfortunately I can only upload small files with my limited internet connection here, so you can't see these in all their detailed glory, but I don't have to tell you folks its THERE in the files!

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And a couple in B&W:

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-Ray
 

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