Leica 7Artisans 35mm f/2 news - its a Sonnar

Hamish Gill

Rookie
Jul 18, 2017
Hi all,

Thought a few readers here (I'm looking at you @Brian) might be interested to know that the forthcoming 7Artisans 35mm f/2 is a 7/5 Sonnar design.

I've been playing with a prototype and have just published a post with a few more details here

Hope you guys don't mind the brazen promotion of my website - just figured there's not so much point in me repeating myself here when all the details can be found via the link...

Cheers,

Hamish
 

BrianS

Legend
Jul 7, 2010
I can't remember another Sonnar formula 35mm focal length lens for a full-frame camera. The Biogon is an asymmetric design, "similar" approach, but not a Sonnar. It was limited to F2.8.

I'll be looking forward to some comparisons. Do you have a good J-12 in LTM?

I'd love to borrow this lens for some comparison shots- Else, I will wait until it comes out and just buy one. I have the LTM 35/1.7 Ultron, Nikkor 3.5cm F2.5, J-12 that's really a CZJ Biogon optics module in an LTM mount...
 
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Seamus3900

Regular
Sep 21, 2013
I have the Zeiss Biogon 35mm which I love but I have been waiting for this lens with a lot of interest. Very good view and I think for me it comes down to price, if its cheap enough I will give it a try.
 

Hamish Gill

Rookie
Jul 18, 2017
I have the Zeiss Biogon 35mm which I love but I have been waiting for this lens with a lot of interest. Very good view and I think for me it comes down to price, if its cheap enough I will give it a try.
I know what it’s going to retail for, but can I ask what you would be happy to pay?
 

Hamish Gill

Rookie
Jul 18, 2017
I can't remember another Sonnar formula 35mm focal length lens for a full-frame camera. The Biogon is an asymmetric design, "similar" approach, but not a Sonnar. It was limited to F2.8.

I'll be looking forward to some comparisons. Do you have a good J-12 in LTM?

I'd love to borrow this lens for some comparison shots- Else, I will wait until it comes out and just buy one. I have the LTM 35/1.7 Ultron, Nikkor 3.5cm F2.5, J-12 that's really a CZJ Biogon optics module in an LTM mount...
I’ve asked if they mind me sending it on, else I’ll send you a production one to “try before you buy” from stock when I get it Brian - I owe you a favour or two ;)
 

BrianS

Legend
Jul 7, 2010
Lomography - Expert Advice: Brian Sweeney's First Impressions of the New Jupiter 3+

I must be a Sonnar Expert... They say so!

Send them a link of my J-3+ test. I bought one of the first ones in the US- company asked me to do an "Interview" and write-up. I guess they liked the article, after it was published- they sent me a second lens for free, just got a UPS tracking number and it showed up on my door. I use the second one on the M Monochrom.
 

Hamish Gill

Rookie
Jul 18, 2017
Lomography - Expert Advice: Brian Sweeney's First Impressions of the New Jupiter 3+

I must be a Sonnar Expert... They say so!

Send them a link of my J-3+ test. I bought one of the first ones in the US- company asked me to do an "Interview" and write-up. I guess they liked the article, after it was published- they sent me a second lens for free, just got a UPS tracking number and it showed up on my door. I use the second one on the M Monochrom.
Haha, I think your an expert, and I'm told I am one too, therefore I must know what I am talking about! ;)

I have sent them that link - cross your fingers! ;)
 

Hamish Gill

Rookie
Jul 18, 2017
Hey @Brian, good news! ;)

In other news, I posted a list a little like this on RFF yesterday- Stephen banned my and deleted all of my posts since 2008...
so do let me know if I ever step over the line here...
 
I can't remember another Sonnar formula 35mm focal length lens for a full-frame camera. The Biogon is an asymmetric design, "similar" approach, but not a Sonnar. It was limited to F2.8.
I think that, probably, the closest Sonnar may be one that I really love, the Rollei Sonnar 40/2.8 HFT... although it is really closer to a Miyazaki Sonnetar optical scheme, 5 elements in 4 groups...

 

Hamish Gill

Rookie
Jul 18, 2017
The 35mm in the Nikon l35 is supposed to be a Sonnar - I have a formula diagram for the 7Artisans lens, but they’ve said they don’t want me to share it yet... I will as soon as I can
 

BrianS

Legend
Jul 7, 2010
How could I forget that one! Definitely Sonnars, the filler element dropped from the front triplet. The filler was added to reduce transmission loss.

I might have a broken one in the basement- will have to look.
 

Seamus3900

Regular
Sep 21, 2013
I know what it’s going to retail for, but can I ask what you would be happy to pay?
I can see the Sony version going for around £140 UK pounds and you say this will be more expensive so I am hoping it will not be above £200 UK.

Sorry for the slow reply but i have been travelling :)
 

M. Valdemar

Veteran
Aug 5, 2013
New York City
Interesting times and interesting products from China.

A whole new generation of enthusiasts.

(I have probably made enough money to buy several of these lenses by picking up Nikon L35's at flea markets for a couple of bucks and reselling them on eBay. Ditto for Yashica P&S cameras with Zeiss Tessar lenses.)
 

M. Valdemar

Veteran
Aug 5, 2013
New York City
I have been banned myself....multiple times under multiple personas.....on RFF.

Just curious, what did they think was so terrible about you reporting on a new lens??

Hey @Brian, good news! ;)

In other news, I posted a list a little like this on RFF yesterday- Stephen banned my and deleted all of my posts since 2008...
so do let me know if I ever step over the line here...
 

SParis

Rookie
Sep 5, 2017
Beverly Hills, Michigan
Scott Paris
I know what it’s going to retail for, but can I ask what you would be happy to pay?
Well, you didn't ask me, but I'll answer: I'd think it should be a bit less the the 50mm f1.1, and more than the Sony version, so, $200 to $250? (US dollars) At that price, I'd buy one, sights unseen.
A hundred dollars more, $300 to $350, and I'd wait until there were several reviews out. But that's still attractive.
 

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