An early review of Luminar 3 with Libraries

Kevin

Code Monkey 🐒
Nov 3, 2018
Yes, he reviews a pre-release version, but after reading the bad and the ugly, I'm not at all sure I will upgrade. YMMV.
The New Luminar 3 with Libraries - the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly - Matt Suess Photography
I actually just bought Luminar a few days ago in anticipation of the Luminar 3 release with the idea of using it in lieu of an Adobe LR CC subscription. I'm a (very) casual user so with the added file management I'm thinking of it as a possible replacement for LR CC & Bridge.

By any chance did you happen to see what meta tag info is exposed? Luminar 2018 is a tad lacking in that ability, at least that I can find, so I'm finding myself using Bridge and other tools to view the meta data for testing stuff.
 
Jan 31, 2011
Newcastle, Australia
Sue
I actually just bought Luminar a few days ago in anticipation of the Luminar 3 release with the idea of using it in lieu of an Adobe LR CC subscription. I'm a (very) casual user so with the added file management I'm thinking of it as a possible replacement for LR CC & Bridge.

By any chance did you happen to see what meta tag info is exposed? Luminar 2018 is a tad lacking in that ability, at least that I can find, so I'm finding myself using Bridge and other tools to view the meta data for testing stuff.
No, didnt notice, but I think he commented about its lack in his "ugly" or "bad" section. There's lots that should be there, that isnt. I'm losing faith in Skylum. The cost of upgrading every year is ridiculous. Sure, you can use what you have forever, but if you want more, you have to buy more. (I bet they already know how to get metadata exposed/included but will keep that for a future upgrade.) It may as well be a subscription, IMO. I like editing in Luminar, and can make do with Photos as the manager. I could even backtrack to iPhoto.
 

Kevin

Code Monkey 🐒
Nov 3, 2018
Hmm, there are a few videos coming out now, check youtube and vimeo, and here's a link to the roadmap.

Luminar | Roadmap
The pre-release press embargo on the Luminar 3 release ended this morning so all of the Skylum promotional material is now okay to be posted in the public.

If you haven't come across them yet, Skylum has also released some lengthy tutorial videos.



 

bilzmale

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Jul 17, 2010
Perth, Western Australia
Bill Shinnick
I find Skylum one of the better companies when it comes to upgrades and pricing. If you own 2018 the upgrade to library version is free. The AI Sky filter was free and the upgrade to 2019 is also promised to be free. Basic cost for new customers is $69 and a $10 discount is readily available. Compared to Adobe CC you would get about 6 months for $59.

I also read the review posted by Sue and agree the DAM it is minimal at this stage but I expect will grow and improve.

BTW does anyone know if Ratings and Keywords translate from one software to another eg LR to On1?
 

Kevin

Code Monkey 🐒
Nov 3, 2018
DAM it is minimal at this stage
I may have broken it. :( I went to import a folder in my library and forgot that it was a folder also containing some backups to the size of 45 gigs or so, now Luminar 3 is hung and after a reboot it's unresponsive once the logo screen comes up. I suspect it may be trying to run the import task yet and is either getting hung up or the import size giving it issues.
 

Kevin

Code Monkey 🐒
Nov 3, 2018
@Kevin I’ve found Skylum suport very helpful in the past. You may need to ask them for help.
I'm trying a re-install first. One annoyance is that for Windows the Luminar 3 installer is a stub so that re-installing it means download everything all over again over the network. When I get home I have to check but I thought Luminar 2018 wasn't a stub but the full local install version.
 

theoldsmithy

Hall of Famer
Jan 7, 2013
Cheshire, England
Martin Connolly
I'm trying a re-install first. One annoyance is that for Windows the Luminar 3 installer is a stub so that re-installing it means download everything all over again over the network. When I get home I have to check but I thought Luminar 2018 wasn't a stub but the full local install version.
Isn’t the rest of the install code cached in a temp directory or something?
 

Kevin

Code Monkey 🐒
Nov 3, 2018
Isn’t the rest of the install code cached in a temp directory or something?
It probably is but I tend to keep my travelling laptop tidy. If I was home it would not have been as much as an annoyance but here at the office the wi-fi network isn't exactly the greatest.
 

Kevin

Code Monkey 🐒
Nov 3, 2018
BTW does anyone know if Ratings and Keywords translate from one software to another eg LR to On1?
That answer seems to be a big "no", for now at least.

Review: Luminar 3 with Libraries -- The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

No keywords, no captions, no .xmp file support, no IPTC, no geo-tags, no versions or stacks, no smart albums, etc. This isn’t fun. When you import your files, the only info that gets brought in is camera metadata. If you have keywords or star ratings or anything else either embedded in your file or stored in an .xmp sidecar file Luminar 3 won’t see it. This means you are starting all over with your catalog organization and it could be a deal-breaker for a bunch of photographers. In addition, if you export a file to Photoshop, your star rating doesn’t get sent with the file. A lot of this is basic photo catalog management and it is quite disappointing to not see any of this yet in this first release.​
 
Jan 31, 2011
Newcastle, Australia
Sue
Yeah, I wasn't very encouraged by that. Skylum does tend to hold back on various "features" which are standard in other apps, for later upgrades. We expected the Libraries last year (in 2017) but it didnt happen and they have made us wait til now. I suspect the only reason that we are getting a free run on next year is that there would have been an outcry about being made to wait longer and longer for the libraries. It would be poor form to expect us to pay for an upgrade after that.

Theres a LOT to like about editing in Luminar and Aurora (whichever version) but for full features... nope. I may well revert to OnOne
 

Kevin

Code Monkey 🐒
Nov 3, 2018
I may have broken it. :( I went to import a folder in my library and forgot that it was a folder also containing some backups to the size of 45 gigs or so, now Luminar 3 is hung and after a reboot it's unresponsive once the logo screen comes up. I suspect it may be trying to run the import task yet and is either getting hung up or the import size giving it issues.
Fortunately I'm just starting to play around with Luminar 3, and Luminar in general, and since L3 installs side-by-side with L2018 anything I did in L3 didn't affect my L2018 install. With that in mind I ended up deleting the "Luminar Catalog" in my Pictures folder (the default install location on Win machines) and that took care of it. During a Facebook presentation tonight a Skylum rep mentioned that for "performance reasons" it is best to add images in small batches to the Library so I'm guessing that me accidentally trying to add a 50gb folder was a bit too much for it. :D

On a bit of a downer both of my questions during the live chat were seemingly ignored. I wanted to know if their road map plans included being able to view the full meta tags, similar to Adobe Bridge. No answer but they did answer somebody asking if the ability to edit EXIF tags like Copyright & similar will be coming. Yes to that question. I also wanted to know if the feature set was the same between the Mac & Win versions. No answer to that one and I'm not sure if I've seen that particular question addressed anywhere.
 

Covey22

Hall of Famer
Feb 3, 2012
What do we need to provide to get Luminar 3 for free? I'll have to dig through my e-mails for the license code I'm guessing.
 

theoldsmithy

Hall of Famer
Jan 7, 2013
Cheshire, England
Martin Connolly
Fortunately I'm just starting to play around with Luminar 3, and Luminar in general, and since L3 installs side-by-side with L2018 anything I did in L3 didn't affect my L2018 install. With that in mind I ended up deleting the "Luminar Catalog" in my Pictures folder (the default install location on Win machines) and that took care of it. During a Facebook presentation tonight a Skylum rep mentioned that for "performance reasons" it is best to add images in small batches to the Library so I'm guessing that me accidentally trying to add a 50gb folder was a bit too much for it. :D

On a bit of a downer both of my questions during the live chat were seemingly ignored. I wanted to know if their road map plans included being able to view the full meta tags, similar to Adobe Bridge. No answer but they did answer somebody asking if the ability to edit EXIF tags like Copyright & similar will be coming. Yes to that question. I also wanted to know if the feature set was the same between the Mac & Win versions. No answer to that one and I'm not sure if I've seen that particular question addressed anywhere.
How did you get Luminar 3, Kevin? Is it a beta?
 

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