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dalethorn
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Whoa - Steve is getting very jumpy lately. The resolution differences should be beyond challenge on two high-end cameras like that, so someone should step in and provide some clarification.
the SL is both expensive and will be resolution limited for printing compared to the rest – there is a signifiant [sic] difference between 24 and 36 MP – let alone 50 – under ideal conditions... It would have been nice to see more resolution, but I suspect this might have eaten uncomfortably into S system sales.
Dale, I can clarify. In his wave of excitement about why this new camera is the bestest camera ever, Steve made a false claim. That's all there is to it. If you want to hear it from someone who has spent time shooting the SL, here is what Ming Thein had to say (source):
I wonder what anyone would use it for. For me it would have to be convenient to carry around, just camera and one lens. I don't expect to ever see one, and I'm in a primary photo city.
Lol, Steve Huff just characterized me as an anti-Leica troll because I countered an obviously false claim he was making.
I love the idea that I can carry one lens and cover 85% of what I need.
Something tells me my reply is going to be awaiting moderation for a long time.
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btw, i dont think thats the only af 50 available for nikon
'mirrorless isnt about small size' is an interesting pov from the creator of 'serious compacts'
Tony-
My guess is they are used in the scientific market, but from the Dalsa literature: they would like to see it in a hand-held camera. The performance of the CCD with light coming in off-nadir is impressive. This sensor would be perfect in a CCD based M-Mount camera. Maybe Voigtlander....
Well, now that's a bad mark on him. There was absolutely nothing abusive or insulting in that post. BTW, I read comments elsewhere to the effect that Huff has been making changes to generate more traffic to his sites, but this seems like a step backward for him.Looks like he deleted it without posting. Just as I expected.
The SL is not huge by any standards other than that of mirrorless system cameras.
Personally, I think Leica should have updated the M series before coming out with this thing. The M-262 should have received a new generation Sensor rather than just the old CMOSIS sensor used in the M240. While I'm on it: The M246 deserved better than having a 12-bit pixel. That was a stupid move. I hope Leica gets their act together, At this point, the last Leica that I've been excited about was introduced over 3 years ago. There have been some real gains made in CCD technology since then, 32MPixel CCD available in color and monochrome with better performance than what Leica is putting in the SL, M240, and M246. There is a reason why Phase 1 built their new monochrome camera back around a CCD: sensor uniformity. Of course you would give up Video and Liveview. Maybe Leica can revive Leicina line for that.
The 24x36 version of the CCD used by Phase 1:
FTF7046M 32 MP Mono CCD
Greater than 72dB linear dynamic range, 74dB dynamic range total, 32MPixel. Color and Monochrome.
http://info.teledynedalsa.com/acton/attachment/14932/f-031f/1/-/-/-/-/FTF7046M Datasheet_20130903.pdf
I just bought two more batteries for the M8, M9, and M Monochrom with a charger for $31. I'll report on how well they do- I should be set for a few years.
As far as Steve Huff- the Leica Q sensor is making the M240 and M246 sensor look old; you can read his review where he agrees to my statement to that effect. He's not pushing the M246 as he did the M Monochrom. He's not pushing the M262 as it is basically an M240 with the same CMOS sensor in it. All he's got left to be enthusiastic for Leica is the SL and Q.
Having 75 or so Leica mount RF-coupled lenses- does that classify me as an enthusiast? I'll be enthusiastic for a next Leica digital camera when it uses the Dalsa sensors.
well that is the standard i am using; thats why i made referrence to 'mirrorless' a couple of times. plus, i always referred to the 'SL rig'--rig consisting of the SL and the humongous 'kit' zoom. its ok if you dont consider that rig 'huge', but thats as much your subjective opinion as mine considering it ridiculously huge. finally, i mentioned a couple of times i was posting a mixture of my opinion and trying to be humorous in my metaphors and characterizations. as i said when defending you against steve huff, people need to calm down about gear, understand what is subjective and objective, and not conflate tools with our self worth. its ok to disagree without having to try to prove wrong others subjective feelings. merry christmas!
its ok to disagree without having to try to prove wrong others subjective feelings.
people need to calm down about gear, address what is actually being said.