Cloud Storage ....

If you use Cloud Storage do you use ...

  • PCloud

    Votes: 1 4.8%
  • ICloud

    Votes: 7 33.3%
  • Google Drive

    Votes: 6 28.6%
  • OneDrive

    Votes: 2 9.5%
  • Sync

    Votes: 1 4.8%
  • Dropbox

    Votes: 5 23.8%
  • None

    Votes: 6 28.6%
  • Other ... please comment below

    Votes: 4 19.0%

  • Total voters
    21

Aushiker

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I am currently using Google Drive (1TB) and trying to work with a University supplied free account with OneDrive (OneDrive Business). The intention with the OneDrive was to use it as a secondary backup for my images. Anyway, neither option is that fantastic so I am looking at other options. PCloud sounds promising as amongst other things it does not seem to need a specific sync folder. That said does anyone have experience with PCloud or other options for storing day-to-day documents etc plus images?

Oh, just for clarity this will be one of three 'backups' but the only one that is offsite.

Thoughts?
 
I've used pCloud for a few years now. The initial draws were one-time payment, solid privacy, and that they support every platform well, including Linux. These days, I use pCloud to store my RAW files, along with their sidecars, and I'm able to just sync those folders to my local machines, which makes it possible to cross edit and not lose changes. It's really an impressive setup for the price. It's not exactly great at viewing your stuff in the app, if just that's it's a bit of a dumb photo browser, but it does do that too. It's also nice because you can store whatever you want on your account, which is not always an option with cloud providers. I have almost all The Three Stooges shorts ripped from DVD, and I can watch them whenever I want from the pCloud app on my phone. 😃

As an Apple user, I also use iCloud photos. The JPGs I export from On1/CaptureOne get imported into iCloud Photo Library, where I have 2 decades worth of photos and videos (I haven't been an Apple user that long, but I have uploaded my entire library there). I like iCloud for the very easy sharing, especially with the rest of my household, and that it does just enough AI to recognize faces, but not so creepy that I don't feel that machines are about to take over the world.
 
Used Dropbox for years, from when it was in beta. Switched to Sync three years ago for the end-to-end encryption and lower price. Also data is stored on Canadian servers, which as a Canadian is important to me. No regrets, Sync’s performance has improved to the point that it is now comparable to Dropbox.
 
Another pCloud user here - though I have nothing to add to what's already been said: The virtue is in the service itself, not the site or online presentation. Another service I'm paid up with is MEGA - and because they are good at online presentation as well, I mainly use it to store my exported JPEGs; it's kind of a personal album containing several thousand images. However, everything's also sync'ed and backed up on pCloud. MEGA offers quite a nice entry level subscription (Pro Lite) that gets you 400GB of storage space and 1TB of traffic for $5 - plenty for daily use. It's just a storage service, too - no fancy stuff that can go haywire or be changed/removed later (see below).

Anyhow, today, the cloud's everywhere. I have my personal NextCloud service (with dedicated storage that resides on my web server) and use a variety of other services. NextCloud will be build up as another complete backup online - but I have to look into its prowess as a daily driver before considering it for more than that.

Anyhow, Box came first for me, and I've loved their free service for many years, but now it's on its way out due to recent new and undocumented(!) restrictions concerning file types (.txt, .pages - and probably others, I'm not keen on finding further issues ...); I've already backed up everything I can and will finally move all my personal files for daily use to pCloud as well over the summer - since it's quite a bit of stuff that's accumulated over the years, including some that only Box can display (see below), I have to do so in a very controlled fashion, establishing a new storage structure in the process. Dull, tedious work - but it's necessary, unfortunately, because losing access to files due to some random policy changes isn't okay by me.

Many services have their really useful aspects. Box offers Notes and Canvas, so is actually quite a nice self contained, free collaboration suite - it's what I'll still use it for going forward (and they're probably not going to kill their own assets - though such things have happened before). Dropbox offers Paper, the most comprehensive shared writing system (Markdown based) I'm aware of online, and I use it to, well, write; it's become even more important since my dedicated authoring system online ceased to exist because the single developer had to move on to other things in life. While there are alternatives to Paper, none come with the added security and storage that Dropbox provides.

However, both Box and Dropbox want too much money for their paid storage services in my opinion - they're simply not good enough for the money they demand. I'll continue to use Dropbox because our street band uses it, Google Drive because our orchestra uses it, and my Android phones and tablet demand a Gmail account to be used, so there's Google drive and all the Google apps, OneDrive is deployed at school, and while I use iCloud as little as I can get away with, you can't really avoid it when you're using an iPad. It's quite a bit of a mess, really. pCloud's sync feature allows me to keep at least a backup of everything in one place online, but I still have to dig through different folders to find stuff. Sync'ing everything to the same folder structure increases the risk of losing everything if one service fails, so at least some separation is advised.

Anyway, back to images. I think pCloud's business model (one-time payment, nice packages) is best, but solid, simple, inexpensive places like MEGA (that also offers very good encryption and security) are also great. The rest, well ...

M.
 
Anyway, back to images. I think pCloud's business model (one-time payment, nice packages) is best, but solid, simple, inexpensive places like MEGA (that also offers very good encryption and security) are also great. The rest, well ...

M.

Thanks, Matt and Darmok. I am trailing PCloud at the moment. Seemed pretty quick to upload 5GB of images. The creation of a P: drive in the file system caught me by surprise initially (I was backing up from my external SSD) but apparently, it is a virtual drive.

Mega is nearly twice the price of PCloud for me.

The one-time payment plan option does concern me somewhat. You really need to keep selling plans or the cash flow dry up. One of the reasons I suspect for the subscription models.

I will also try Sync to see if that has improved from when I previously used it in 2019. [UPADTE: Horrendously slow for me as it was in 2019. It looks like PCloud using a European server is going to be the most cost-effective functional option.
 
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My other is Adobe CC.
I use a combination of iCloud for my documents, Google Drive for sharing with others and Adobe CC for my photo library.
I don’t consider any of these as backups but rather as a convenience to access my files anywhere. My actual backups are all local. And yes, I know that only having local backups is bad protocol and puts me at risk. Such is life.
 
Good Morning,

I have been using Google Drive for all school-related images since ~2017, and as a temporary storage drive while traveling (as I am now in Reno, NV) for the ease. Yes, it is slow at times, but I get unlimited space as an educator, so no real complaints.

Regards,

Edd
 
iCloud for me. Recently experienced a hard drive failure. It ultimately resulted in 0 lost images.
It took about a week to download my 64K images, but all Jpeg + Raw images were restored!
 
Well @donlaw got me thinking. I am interested in using iCloud to back up all my photos but have never been able to get the details worked out. As not to hijack this Poll Thread I have posted my question here:


Thanks
 
For my phone photos and our blog photos I use iCloud. However, my main cloud storage is on my Synology NAS with Disk Station Manager. The Synology app I use to sync is "Synology Photos". On my phone the app I use is "Photos Mobile", this app take all my photos taken on the phone and sends them to Synology Photos. One nice feature of Synology Photos is its ability to catalog subjects and people. Works reasonably well.

My wife and I live on bicycles touring the world and having cloud storage is our only method of storing files, photos, and videos. Cloud storage companies are too expensive and very limited on what they can do so we created our own. My family has our NAS sitting out of the way in a corner always connected. Whenever I need more storage, I remove a smaller hard drive and install one with more capacity. At the moment my NAS has 30tb of storage so I won't be running out of space anytime soon.

On the rare occasion that a hard drive fails, all that is needed is to replace it and all your data is restored. Happened to me twice and both times no data was lost.

Building your own NAS (network attached storage) is expensive up front but it has more than paid for itself during the past 18 years I have been using one.
 
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For my phone photos and our blog photos I use iCloud. However, my main cloud storage is on my Synology NAS with Disk Station Manager. The Synology app I use to sync is "Synology Photos". On my phone the app I use is "Photos Mobile", this app take all my photos taken on the phone and sends them to Synology Photos. One nice feature of Synology Photos is its ability to catalog subjects and people. Works reasonably well.

My wife and I live on bicycles touring the world and having cloud storage is our only method of storing files, photos, and videos. Cloud storage companies are too expensive and very limited on what they can do so we created our own. My family has our NAS sitting out of the way in a corner always connected. Whenever I need more storage, I remove a smaller hard drive and install one with more capacity. At the moment my NAS has 30tb of storage so I won't be running out of space anytime soon.

On the rare occasion that a hard drive fails, all that is needed is to replace it and all your data is restored. Happened to me twice and both times no data was lost.

Building your own NAS (network attached storage) is expensive up front but it has more than paid for itself during the past 18 years I have been using one.
My main workstation is a sort of, more or less, cobbled together NAS ...
Like Topsy, it just sort of grew!

It currently has about 10 TB of internal storage, with another 11 TB of various kinds and sizes of external HDDs that either sit on a shelf, in my camera bag, or in our fireproof safe.

I am not as meticulous as I should be with backup, nor is it as organised as it should be.

However, NTFS is a very forgiving file system, and the lack of support for it in the Apple ecosystem is just one insurmountable reason why I will never even contemplate using Apple computers.
 
My main workstation is a sort of, more or less, cobbled together NAS ...
Like Topsy, it just sort of grew!

It currently has about 10 TB of internal storage, with another 11 TB of various kinds and sizes of external HDDs that either sit on a shelf, in my camera bag, or in our fireproof safe.

I am not as meticulous as I should be with backup, nor is it as organised as it should be.

However, NTFS is a very forgiving file system, and the lack of support for it in the Apple ecosystem is just one insurmountable reason why I will never even contemplate using Apple computers.
Fortunately for me Synology plays very well with Apple. So far on a great track record.

I am very meticulous about my backups. I keep a copy of all my photos, videos, and files on ssd drives that go into a fire/water safe. Before I started living on a bicycle and touring I was able to do a backup to those drives once a month. Now it is whenever I get a chance to or if I can talk my sister into doing it for me. 😁

On the bike, I travel with a 5tb drive as a backup and work off of portable 2tb ssd sandisk drives. Every once in awhile when I switch continents I send the 5tb drive home and get another for backup.

For important documents and photos I have a 1tb SD card that is hidden in the frame of my bike.
 
However, NTFS is a very forgiving file system, and the lack of support for it in the Apple ecosystem is just one insurmountable reason why I will never even contemplate using Apple computers.
For what it's worth, macOS can read NTFS by default, and something open source like macFUSE can get you write support for free. Or there are for-pay options that will set you back $15-20.
 
Anyhow, today, the cloud's everywhere. I have my personal NextCloud service (with dedicated storage that resides on my web server) and use a variety of other services. NextCloud will be build up as another complete backup online - but I have to look into its prowess as a daily driver before considering it for more than that.
I had nextcloud running on an intel atom PC on Ubuntu (<10 watts on idle) with 2 drives attached from home for a few years. It worked well but in the end I was tempted to a 250GB lifetime plan with Koofr to save me from the hassle of monitoring the server.

Back then koofr was one of the first to offer lifetime plans and it was great value, but these days, if I had to find a lifetime plan I'd probably go for PCloud due to the better encryption. Not that I have super critical files in the cloud, but it's just more peace of mind if I inadvertently drop secure files there.

I am finding 250GB limiting, but, I figure it's an opportunity to start culling as I'm sure most of the images on that backup can probably get the flick.
 
For what it's worth, macOS can read NTFS by default, and something open source like macFUSE can get you write support for free. Or there are for-pay options that will set you back $15-20.
Yeah in my computer tech days I dealt with a lot of that stuff. Now I want very little to do with computers so spend as little time on them as possible.

Getting back to my roots when I grew up in Alaska with no electricity or running water until 1983. Best days of my life. Now I tour on a bicycle and have a self gridded cabin for a basecamp.
 
I use a Hetzner storage box for backup. It's just a dumb file server, that I push borg-backups to. Cheap and reliable and client-side encrypted. I've had data loss issues with Dropbox and iCloud, which is why I switched to such a technical solution. To its credit, it has maintained a continuous, incremental backup of my data for the last eight years, despite several operating system switches and computer replacements.

Additionally, for JPEGs and album sharing, I use Cewe MyPhoto, which is the photo sharing service of the (German) photo printing shop I use. They accrue some percentage of all photo sales as credit for MyPhoto, which usually makes it almost free to use for me.
 
For what it's worth, macOS can read NTFS by default, and something open source like macFUSE can get you write support for free. Or there are for-pay options that will set you back $15-20.
Read/write access is one thing, actual use of the auto-recovery facilities of NTFS is (perhaps) another thing altogether.

I have one housekeeping HDD that currently has an inaccessible $MFT file. However, the drive still functions perfectly, and I can read/write to it.

Now, what I propose to do is replace the defective, but still functioning, HDD with another, copy its contents on to the new HDD, then reformat the "defective" HDD, which will recreate both copies of the $MFT, and allow complete reconstruction of the HDD's file system.

The now perfectly normal NTFS HDD will go into another PC which requires more storage capacity.
 
I chose iDrive for the following reasons, and things that I needed.
  1. Reasonable price - 5Tb for $79.5 US p.a. First year cheaper.
  2. Unlimited machines for backup. however, all on the one account. So wife's and my lap top are also backed up as well as my desktop machine.
  3. Automatically detects changed or new files and backs them up. Can specify what folders etc. Pain if have to manually back up files.
  4. Will also back up my NAS box. Just map the drive from the NAS.
  5. Has versioning. so if stuff up and save a file can go back to a previous version of that file.
  6. Is reasonably fast.
Currently have about 2Tb backed up. Videos and images mostly.
 
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I've been looking for cloud based before since Amazon did away with drive and most likely I'm going to use iDrive as well.

The primarily driver is I can set it all up on my Synology NAS, and then it's all transparent to me.
 
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