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Compact system camera overload!

Discussion in 'Open Gear Talk' started by soundimageplus, Apr 22, 2011.

  1. soundimageplus

    soundimageplus Top Veteran

    Jul 6, 2010
    Due to deals, bargains, refurbished sites and just general spring fever I'm about to end up in the middle of next week with 10 cameras!! 7 of which are CSC's. So how did I get to this crazy state?

    Three reasons.

    Firstly I'm having to change the way I work due to the increased occurance of visual migraines I have suffered from for many years. This seems to be linked in part to manually focusing lenses using EVF's and screens, which until recently I have been doing a lot. Consequently I am moving to AF mostly with the exception of my Leica and one lens. The Leica having an optical viewfinder doesn't pose the same problem. I've therefore been selling off my M-Mount and MF lenses, with the result I have quite a lot of money in my equipment fund.

    Secondly I am seriously considering moving exclusively to CSC's for everything and am keen to try out all the systems and work with them for a while before deciding which suit me best.

    Thirdly, when compared to much of the other gear I've been using, a lot of this CSC kit is relatively inexpensive. I buy a lot of S/H, and refurbished and keep my eyes open for the best deals. I also buy a lot of items in kits, keep what I want and sell off what I don't. This together with the tax and VAT allowances available to me as I'm a full-time photographer, means the gear I buy costs me, in real terms, far less than the list price.

    So when it all arrives by next Wednesday I will have:-
    Sony a850
    Olympus E-620
    Leica M9
    Panasonic GH2
    Panasonic GF1
    Olympus E-P1
    Olympus E-PL1
    Samsung NX100
    Sony NEX5
    Fuji X100 (Its on its way!!)

    Two of these are new to me. The Sony and the Fuji, which despite my reservations about the body, has impressed me with its image quality and referring back to reason one has an optical viewfinder alternative which could be helpful to me. I've always had some reservations about the Sony design, but that ??24MP sensor is tantalising.

    I shall of course be trimming this down to what I really like, and also trying to predict where each system is going to go, and assess which is likely to give me the best potential to fulfill my particular needs. I really want to get rid of the heavy, bulky stuff, but am very concerned that I feel comfortable with operating the cameras and its only by using them for a while that shows what works for me and what doesn't.

    Ideally I would like to get down to four. Four is the magic number for me, ever since I took three cameras on a stock trip to the South of France. I managed to drop one in the sea, roll another down a mountain road and the third one, which got me through, developed a faulty winder, leading to me having to be very gentle with it. So consequently I never travel with less than four. As I said, some of this has been bought very cheaply. The price I just paid for a "refurbished" yet mint as new E-P1 means I can afford to keep something like that as a backup, and not worry about what its cost me.

    I already think two are certainties to keep. The GH2, which as I've said often enough would be my "If I could only keep one camera" choice. The other is the Leica, because I dont think I can part with it. It's taken me 28 years to be able to afford it, including a lot of hard work and a non-existent (and therefore non-costly) social life, so I'm not about to give it up lightly.

    But then I look at the others and see advantages.
    The Samsung has great colour.
    The E-P1 is just gorgeous.
    The a850 is heavy, but those 24MP files are stunning.
    etc. etc.

    Who knows I may have a few really big sales, and keep the lot. They will certainly be around for a while, and if you're interested in comparisons, tests etc. (though don't expect anything too technical!) I'll be writing about them here and on the blog. The reason for buying them all now has to do with tax years and the fact that this is my busiest time of the year. Due to the relocation of summer in the UK to April this year, I've been working flat out for the last week, and the suns out again today so I'll be off shortly.

    So its not Spring fever (really) and there's a genuine reason for having all these cameras. And if I keep saying that often enough, somebody might just believe me!
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  2. olli

    olli Super Moderator Emeritus

    Sep 28, 2010
    Metro Manila
    I think you should hang 'em all round your neck, take a picture and post it for us:smile:

    Regarding your misfortunes on the South of France trip, where you by any chance indulging in a few long leisurely lunches?
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  3. soundimageplus

    soundimageplus Top Veteran

    Jul 6, 2010
    My backs bad enough as it. I know some of them aren't that heavy but even so.

    Unfortunately not. One disaster was as the result of getting a better angle for a shot and deciding that walking down a boat slipway was the answer, These are of course covered with oil from the boat engines and a few seconds later both myself and my camera were lying in the water!

    The second was the opposite of a long leisurely lunch, while attempting to find my baguette for a quick bite I was searching around in the boot and moving everything around to find it I forgot I had left my camera perched on the back ledge of the car, when I knocked that the camera took off down the road. I did however fix that myself when I got back to the UK, but the first one was a write-off. Cameras and salt water don't go together well.
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  4. BBW

    BBW Administrator Emeritus

    Jul 7, 2010
    betwixt and between
    David, thanks so much for a very entertaining and interesting morning read! I love the real life stories behind the whole decision process, as well - much more interesting than a dry laundry list report. I am sorry to read about the visual migraines, however if you've learned what causes them with regard to camera choices, that's a very good and important realization.

    I was kind of gratified that you have the Olympus E-620, since that's the camera I ended up choosing to give our daughter. She still has a bunch to learn about that camera...and I'm kind of interested to see how it works myself, perhaps this summer I'll get a look.

    Olli's suggested self portrait would be a great image - perhaps you could do it sitting down shot from a low angle with the use of a gorilla pod?:wink:
  5. soundimageplus

    soundimageplus Top Veteran

    Jul 6, 2010
    I haven't actually got this yet. I bought it "refurbished" at a very good price from the Olympus EU resale ebay site. I've got these two wonderful Panasonic Leica lenses, 25mm f/1.4 and 14-150mm zoom, and I wanted something to use them on. I had a Panasonic L10, but though its great quality, its getting a bit long in the tooth and ISO over 200 is terrible. The E-5 was too expensive for what I want, so I thought the e-620 was a decent compromise. I've always wanted to try one anyway as they are so light.

    I will come up with a shot of the cameras, not sure about the self portrait though!!
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  6. Streetshooter

    Streetshooter Administrator Emeritus

    Jul 12, 2010
    Philly, Pa
    Like most good pros, you seem to be caught in the dichotomy between personal & professional work. Your more fortunate than most because it appears that you have a clear understanding of your wants/needs for both areas of your work.

    Personally, I find that training my clients to see things the way I present them is the key to success. What I mean is, the image quality of the print.
    This helps the decision on camera selection. I know you are especially tuned into that.

    I moved out of m43 for a few reasons. I guess I feel that it's not supported the way I would like it to be. I have the X100 coming home, some day. So the Nex5 was a logical step in the direction of IQ and format.
    I see the X100 and Nex working together very well.

    Your selection of cameras is very well thought out. After your own trial period of comfort and testing, you'll know what to work with.

    The one camera in your group I'm sure will outlive the rest is the M9.
    If I had that, I'd be done. There is no better camera...period!
    Good luck David in your quest. I'm sure you'll find your way.

    I very much enjoy your images and thoughts.
    Keep it all coming...
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  7. jankapp

    jankapp Regular

    Aug 28, 2010
    A foveon camera is missing in your collection still.

    You do with cameras that what other people do in gold or shares. You are happier I think.
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  8. soundimageplus

    soundimageplus Top Veteran

    Jul 6, 2010
    Indeed. I had an SD14 and loved the quality of image and especially the colour. However in terms of "real" file size it just wasn't
    enough. I ended up shooting multi-shot panoramas with it, which were great, but thats not possible all the time.

    The SD1 certainly looks interesting, though when it will actually materialise who knows.
  9. LisaO

    LisaO Regular

    Jul 11, 2010

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