oh yes, having used mine and seeing the results, i'd have to agree on them being underrated. i feel the same way about the epson rd1. most all the rf folk dismiss it, and many feel that somehow the m8 is an 'upgrade', but i wouldnt trade mine in. i could see the m9 as an upgrade because youre talking ff, which is its own animal, and 12 extra mps. but looking through that epson's 1:1 vf uncluttered with only one set of framelines, and knowing i dont have to worry about color or focus shift, i still dont know...