Fuji Discounted X100 or Full-Price X100s?

[flysurfer]

With money tight, the classic X100 is a perfect choice to enter and get to know the X universe. You will have plenty of options regarding post processing, you won't lose much if you (have to) sell the camera later, and there will be another performance enhancing firmware update. It is a classic and classy experience.

 

[entropic remnants]

With money tight, the classic X100 is a perfect choice to enter and get to know the X universe. You will have plenty of options regarding post processing, you won't lose much if you (have to) sell the camera later, and there will be another performance enhancing firmware update. It is a classic and classy experience.

Haven't had my X100 long, but I really, really like it.

 

[monk3y]

i dont know about that. i am severely addled with GAS on a fairly constant basis. but ive had the x100 since the beginning and i couldnt be happier. i agree with luke: from what ive seen the S files are a little 'better', but only marginally so, imo. the throughout-the-frame clarity of the original X is simply awe inspiring, up to 3200. its b&w reproduction is honesly the best ive seen until the M monochrome. the firmware upgrades make the user experiences almost identical, unless you much prefer manual focus, where imo the S takes it easily.

and the S is not itself without issues, like kind of shabby close focusing. newer is not always better! i found this out twice, once when i traded my ep2 for the much touted omd, and again when i traded my x10 in for an x20. the newer versions had much to offer over the older on paper; but subjectively to my eye, neither produced the kind of files i so enjoyed with their predecessors.

so fear not! spend less and enjoy just as much! you will marvel at what you get from the x100. querie though, at least in the US you can pick up a new xe-1 and use lots of lenses, for about $600, which imo is the most outstanding deal out there. imo, thats where the decision lies: original x100 vs xe-1.

I am pretty sure newer is not always better. I've learned it with the D700 never replaced it for more than 3 years until I got the E-M5. I only got the E-M5 coz I want a smaller camera.

The only reason I did not replace the D700 was because I was so satisfied with it I never even considered nor lust for other cameras. Now since the OP is asking/thinking about the x100s I assume he is interested about it since he's willing to spend more to get it. From my personal view, it's almost futile to fight the urge. hehe

Otherwise any current camera can get you decent results IQ wise. I chose the X-E1 coz I want a system camera, I don't expect it to have better IQ than the E-M5/E-P5, I just expect it to be different and boy is it different. haha I like!!

 

[Bhupinder2002]

I am pretty sure newer is not always better. I've learned it with the D700 never replaced it for more than 3 years until I got the E-M5. I only got the E-M5 coz I want a smaller camera.

The only reason I did not replace the D700 was because I was so satisfied with it I never even considered nor lust for other cameras. Now since the OP is asking/thinking about the x100s I assume he is interested about it since he's willing to spend more to get it. From my personal view, it's almost futile to fight the urge. hehe

Otherwise any current camera can get you decent results IQ wise. I chose the X-E1 coz I want a system camera, I don't expect it to have better IQ than the E-M5/E-P5, I just expect it to be different and boy is it different. haha I like!!

I am with you Steven. I skipped Olympus P3 series and only upgraded from EPL2 to OMD because of weather sealing . I lust about EP5 ( u know it ) but cant justify it . I love EP5 looks but OMD with grip and WR is something I dont wanna give up. I am not interested in building an other system so X100 works for me . Now if any XYZ camea offers ISO 1000000K etc perfromance , I dont care as my limit is 1600 and I mostly shoot at base ISO. FUJI X100 AF is quite acceprtable and infact very good after firmaware update. I really love old sensor output . I just cant shell out USD700 more for letter S , photographer Z and marginal improvement in AF ( day time only ) and ISO . Lets hope Fuji launches FF in same body like RX1 then its a different game .
Cheers

 

[romi.gilles]

if any of these are what you may consider improvements over what may have been niggles on the x100, then it may matter to you (like it does other people) enough to justify the extra costs for the x100s:

1. 16-megapixel sensor, up from 12-megapixel
2. X-Trans CMOS II sensor eliminates the need for an Optical Low Pass Filter.
3. The resolution has improved.
4. S/N ratio has improved by over 30%.
5. Phase detection pixels allow 0.08 sec Auto focus
6. 1080p 60fps/30fps full HD movie
7. Improved start-up time. From 2.0sec to 0.5sec
8. Continuous Shooting from 5fps up to 6fps
9. Number of consecutive frames while using Continuous Shooting from 10 frames to 31 frames
10. Improved Shooting Interval from 0.9 seconds down to 0.5 seconds.
11. EXR Processor II Lens Modulation Optimiser reduces diffraction phenomenon and peripheral aberrations.
12. EXR Processor II features X-Trans processing & new noise reduction.
13. Outputs 14bit RAW files.
14. EVF has a 2.35 mil dot LCD.
15. A new protective coating on the surface of the viewfinder window prevents fingerprints and smudging.
16. The handling and response on focus ring has been improved.
17. The shooting range of the OVF has been expanded from 80cm to infinity, to 50cm to infinity.
18. The world’s first Digital Split Image Manual Focus system. It uses the phase detection to show assist accurate focussing.
19. Focus Peak Highlight function helps you to check the focal plane.
20. In Movie Shooting, it is possible to choose 3 kinds of focusing modes MF/ AF-C and AF-S.
21. Expanded AF shooting range from 40cm – infinity (X100) to 21cm – infinity (X100S). (not on Macro mode)
22. Quick (Q) Button for speed and instant access to shooting menus.
23. Multi Tab Menu easy and fast navigation.
24. Two new Film simulation functions added: Pro Neg.Std and Pro Neg. Hi.
25. F-simulation bracketing function – one shot can produce 3 different Film Simulation effects which can be pre-set.
26. ‘Advanced filter’ mode has been installed as standard.
27. Multi Exposure function. While viewing your first shot on the EVF or LCD as an overlay, you can shoot a second shot.
28. Shutter Counter counts every 100 times the shutter closes. (This not only counts shots taken, but also when the camera is turned on/off and put into playback mode)
29. The shape of the viewfinder window has been changed to help prevent dust build-up.
30. Strap attachment rings are reinforced with an inside stainless-steel layer.
31. Improved the shape of the Viewfinder lever.
32. Improved the layout of the Focus lever (goes MF > AF-C > AF-S now)
33. Improved the operability of the MENU/OK button.
34. Improved shape of the Q button.(was previously the RAW button)
35. Improved the shape of the Front Ring.
36. Improved the torque of the exposure dial.
37. Improved layout of the shutter speed dial.
38. Improved the design of the Battery-chamber.
39. Improved the shape of the Hot shoe.
40. Max ISO from 3200 to 6400 (ISO AUTO Mode)
41. WB shift available in any mode.
42. Variation of aspect ratio 3:2, 16:9, and 1:1.
43. Improved live view with wide aperture in MF shooting
44. Ability to reset the shooting menu and set-up separately.
45. No formatting on the setting when updating firmware.
46. Change the default LCD information setting -> standard.
47. Reset function added for every custom mode.
48. Added information on all F-simulation modes.
49. Added functionality allowing ‘MARK FOR UPLOAD TO’ MyFinePix.com.
50. Supports Eye-fi memory cards.
51. When you hold down the Q-button in the Q-menu it’s a short-cut function to edit and save.
52. Ability to set ISO-AUTO with Base and Limit ISO and Min. shutter speed in ISO menu.
53. Change the location of AF area select button.
54. Change the sub-function of AF area select button.
55. Change the sub-function of AE button.
56. Add the sub-function of Fn button.
57. In low light scenes the LCD display is smooth.
58. After releasing the shutter button, the camera will immediately switch to playback mode.
59. After releasing the shutter button you can now immediately use some keys.
60. When holding shutter button, the LCD doesn’t freeze.
61. In Post-viewing after OVF shooting, the eye sensor works.
62. Supports external microphone.
63. Changed Flash settings including External Flash in right key.
64. The ND filter is now available in panorama mode.
65. Faster writing speed to SD memory cards.
66. Phase detection Autofocus now works during movie recording.
67. Added ‘ MF distance indicator ‘ in Display custom setting.
68. After half-pressing the shutter release in manual exposure mode, the live view displays the actual exposure level
69. Hot shoe shape was changed for easy connection to external flash.
70. The “S” badge has been added.

the controls of operating a camera can be similar to the controls of driving a car. throttle cable vs drive-by-wire, touchy brakes vs squishy brakes, short throw shifter vs long throws, etc. an '86 corolla gt-s (or fr-s/brz) may not be powerful at all, but the way it feels to maneuver one is awesome for what it is.

 

[jnewell]

DPReview forums are starting to look really good right about now...

Nah, this is cheerful, humorous, non-personal.

 

[Bhupinder2002]

Nah, this is cheerful, humorous, non-personal.

Lol

 

[rbelyell]

i think the improved torque of the exposure dial just nails it for me. i just set my worthless x100 on fire...always hated that torque!

 

[xdayv]

Now if they come up with a black X100s, that would mean added $$ but same output.

 

[Isoterica]

Spray paint comes in many colors, even weather resistant ones

 

[entropic remnants]

Nah, this is cheerful, humorous, non-personal.

Well, you highlight the choice: A bunch of rude morons or dealing with Gary's poetry... wow, I'll have to think about that, lol.

 

[romi.gilles]

Now if they come up with a black X100s, that would mean added $$ but same output.

i tried looking for a non-working black x100 to use as parts so i could customize my x100s to black. i probably won't ever find one.

it's ridiculous that they even priced it higher as a limited edition when it was a standard choice for the x20 & x-e1, and the only choice for the x-pro1.


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[Gary]

Like the color red makes a car faster as it goes,
I noticed that a camera black will turn amateurs into pros.

 

[Luke]

I demand to know what Dr. Seuss has done with Gary Ayala!

 

[monk3y]

i tried looking for a non-working black x100 to use as parts so i could customize my x100s to black. i probably won't ever find one.

it's ridiculous that they even priced it higher as a limited edition when it was a standard choice for the x20 & x-e1, and the only choice for the x-pro1.


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Damn Olympus also did the same thing with lenses


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[romi.gilles]

Damn Olympus also did the same thing with lenses


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i find it weird that fuji prices the silver wide angle converter a little more than the black one.

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[monk3y]

i find it weird that fuji prices the silver wide angle converter a little more than the black one.

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Maybe because they mostly have black lenses? So the silver converter becomes the special edition? Haha

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[RT Panther]

Just thought of this today.

THIRD OPTION: Wait 2 months or so and see if there is the rumored X100 firmware update.

 

[Bhupinder2002]

Gary is digital Shakespeare

 

[Bhupinder2002]

Just thought of this today.

THIRD OPTION: Wait 2 months or so and see if there is the rumored X100 firmware update.

Congrats ... I think an other firmware update is coming soon but I am happy with the camera .