The 12-100 is the only Pro lens I currently have, though I do have the PL8-18. So I have pretty much two different systems in one. One with a few small primes and probably the 12-45 Pro as some point. The other with the PL8-18 (probably replaced by the 8-24 if released), the 12-100 Pro, and some telephoto.I don't know whether u43 is dead or not. It's kind of up to Panasonic - unless the Chinese come in big time. But I'll tell you what...
I was going through my camera gear today with an eye toward rationalizing my kit. One box I hadn't opened in a while contained my Pentax Q-S1 and four lenses - three zooms and a prime. All very good, all very compact... and all jewel-like in their construction.
And suddenly... it came to me. I really think all of my big, heavy Zuiko PRO glass is the antithesis of the original u43 mission. Oh, it is excellent - don't get me wrong. But it's just so far from what I'm looking for these days. I'm really not happy carrying them around.
I believe I am going to sell off my E-M1 and E-M1 II... and all of my PRO glass with the exception of the 12-45mm f/4. I will use it on my Pen F's along with all the compact, fast Oly primes. Perhaps I'll pick up an E-M5 III on sale or refurbished.
I also plan to pare back my Fuji kit to either one or two cameras.
The Nikon Z system is very interesting... even if it's a bit troubling to me how large many of the system's lenses are. But that's just me.
I owned the D800 along side the D750, The 24mp is great for many things. But if I was going to go with a Z it would be the Z7......Ah ... and since you mention the Z7s: Precisely the body that might pull me over the high-megapixel line, pending other improvements. ......
Still the best flash system for event work. It's not something I need anymore, but I haven't heard of any of the mirrorless systems having it's equal.I like the Z system, but I'm invested in the Sony system right now due to cheaper used gear and more third party options. Sony's flash system is actually my mainly deterrent from making a full Sony move. Nothing satisfies me more than using Nikon's CLS system. I still have my Nikon DSLR work kit, but I'm not sure which direction I want to go just yet. This whole pandemic has changed things up for me. I'm starting to lean more towards super zooms and other gear I normally wouldn't have looked at in the past. One thing that bugs me about mirrorless is the lack of instant response. Even with my recently acquired Sony A9, despite being ridiculously fast to AF, it's still ridiculously slow to turn-on (1-2 seconds)! Then I realize I can also take amazing photos with my pocket Nikon J5 and it just takes the nicest videos!
Come to think about it, don't listen to me. I'm a guy who shoots with everything from the exotic to the cheap beaters...the only thing consistent is my raw workflow! :roflmao:
I think that's kind of where I am as well. I guess it's just REALLY frustrating when I finally see a lens that would actually fill the hole in the system for me on the roadmap, things go sideways again.I'm not so certain about the death of m4/3 . . . at least, I'm willing to risk staying in it with the G95 & PL 12-60 I've purchased in the past couple of weeks. If it ever gets to the point that my camera stops working and there are no suitable replacements in that format, I'll deal with it then, but for now, I'm not going to worry about what the market is doing. There is a ton of angst and even acrimony over m4/3's "impending demise" over at mu-43, DPR, and 43rumors. Life is too short for that kind of stress.
Use to be computer systems for me as well.People do this with cars, motorcycles, and guns. And teapots and audio equipment.
GASOne thing I've learned from these camera forums, is that none of us are ever satisfied! In fact I've seen this scenario play out with all of you across various camera forums over the years (including myself)! We're in a perpetual loop held captive by all the enticing gear these camera/lens companies produce! There's no hope for any of us!
If I were to switch at this point I think it would be to Nikon. I do really like the direction they're going with the Z system. But it would be a while before everything I'd want is available and probably longer before I'd be able to afford / justify getting them.
Reading through the thread, it seems that you are right on the edge of having the kit you want with m43. But you may have that constant temptation of the Nikon Z line. I'm in a similar spot with my Fuji X kit. And that constant curiosity about trying out a GFXr for portraits and landscapes. Is it possible that you could finish out your m43 kit, then get something Nikon Z in the used market to see if it is what you want?I think that's kind of where I am as well. I guess it's just REALLY frustrating when I finally see a lens that would actually fill the hole in the system for me on the roadmap, things go sideways again.
But the more I look at it there really isn't another system that would work for me. Even if all Olympus production shut down, I could still buy either of the Panasonic telephotos and I'd have a small kit when I want with the Pen F and the bigger (but still smallish) when I need that. And while the Olympus 100-400 is really pretty big, it's really just about the same size as every other system's 100-400. So I'd really not gain anything.
The more I hear about the new 100-400 it really seems Olympus should have just done the one lens. Canon has had a few "L" variable aperture telephotos as has Sony had a few "G" lenses. And there is also the Fuji FX.
And knives...People do this with cars, motorcycles, and guns. And teapots and audio equipment.
I'm in the same spot, and it hinges basically on the sensor (dynamic range and highISO).Reading through the thread, it seems that you are right on the edge of having the kit you want with m43. But you may have that constant temptation of the Nikon Z line
That pretty much sums it up. I don't typically list my lenses, they've changes regularly over the years.Reading through the thread, it seems that you are right on the edge of having the kit you want with m43. But you may have that constant temptation of the Nikon Z line. I'm in a similar spot with my Fuji X kit. And that constant curiosity about trying out a GFXr for portraits and landscapes. Is it possible that you could finish out your m43 kit, then get something Nikon Z in the used market to see if it is what you want?
I honestly don't like what I've seen from the Canon R system so far.Well, if you want to buy an RP setup David, I know someone who is selling one ...
You know I could get the O75-300 to fill the telephoto hole and still have enough to get a Z6 + 24-70 f/4. I wonder what the used prices of the Z6/Z7 will be once the Z7s/Z6s are released.I'm in the same spot, and it hinges basically on the sensor (dynamic range and highISO).
Where m43 always hit the limit for me was in dark high contrast situations - forests, especially the Redwoods.
In other scenarios I was quite happy with my m43 stuff.
So I finally bought a Nikon D750 two years ago - especially for our next Redwoods visit and was very happy with it.
M43 is still my main system - but I just added "specialty requirement options" around it...
Is a bit cluttered sometimes, but keeps me from re-buying all the lenses I like in m43 for another system (if that was even possible).
Yeah, If you can deal with two systems you'd get the best of both worlds.You know I could get the O75-300 to fill the telephoto hole and still have enough to get a Z6 + 24-70 f/4. I wonder what the used prices of the Z6/Z7 will be once the Z7s/Z6s are released.
You know I could get the O75-300 to fill the telephoto hole and still have enough to get a Z6 + 24-70 f/4. I wonder what the used prices of the Z6/Z7 will be once the Z7s/Z6s are released.
One thing I've learned from these camera forums, is that none of us are ever satisfied! In fact I've seen this scenario play out with all of you across various camera forums over the years (including myself)! We're in a perpetual loop held captive by all the enticing gear these camera/lens companies produce! There's no hope for any of us!
And knives...
... I am doing it with knives. As we speak...
You shouldn't let your Q live in the box!... I was going through my camera gear today with an eye toward rationalizing my kit. One box I hadn't opened in a while contained my Pentax Q-S1 and four lenses - three zooms and a prime. All very good, all very compact... and all jewel-like in their construction.
And suddenly... it came to me. I really think all of my big, heavy Zuiko PRO glass is the antithesis of the original u43 mission. ...
If I were still shooting events the D780 would be on my list.I came across a bargain price FTZ adapter and bought it. I'm holding onto it until a Z body shows up that fits my price criteria! Either that or I'll buy a D780 at discount and be a DSLR holdout! :roflmao: