Micro 4/3 For an LX100 - JJC ALC-LX100 Auto Lens Cap? Filter?

Worth getting?

  • JJC - Yes

    Votes: 5 62.5%
  • JJC - No - Doesn't work well

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • JJC - No - Why bother / no need?

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • JJC - No - Get the Panasonic, it's better

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • Filter - Yes - Get a filter

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • Filter - No - Auto cap is enough

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • Filter - No - I do use not stink'n filters

    Votes: 1 12.5%

  • Total voters
    8

davidzvi

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Apr 18, 2014
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David
Simple questions.

From what I can tell the Panasonic auto cap will not work with a filter installed, the JJC will. I've been going around and around on getting only the auto cap, only a filter, or both.

Side note I have bunch of 46mm filters, including a B+W MRC UV, polarize, etc. So I also considered just getting a step ring and using the 46mm UV if I use one since I'll probably get the setup anyway for the polarize.

I tried to think of combos in the poll so I set it up for select multiple.
 

Darren Bonner

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Nov 8, 2013
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Poole, UK
Darren
I have the JJC auto cap and it makes the LX100 more convenient to use. I don't use UV/clear glass filters. I do use a ND filter sometimes and I might get a 43mm one. I wont have to resort to using the standard lens cap or if I had the Panasonic auto lens cap, keep taking the filter on/off all the time I want to use and turn off the camera. Plus the JCC is the third of the price of the Panasonic.
the JJC auto cap is well made and does the job without any issues, I am happy with it.
 

Jock Elliott

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Lightmancer

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I've voted "no, doesn't work well". I tried the autocap on the Fuji X10 a couple of years ago. I found that it wasn't really any more convenient than a standard snap-cap and in my bag the "leaves" of the cap would press back onto the front element of the lens.
 

davidzvi

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Apr 18, 2014
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David
I've voted "no, doesn't work well". I tried the autocap on the Fuji X10 a couple of years ago. I found that it wasn't really any more convenient than a standard snap-cap and in my bag the "leaves" of the cap would press back onto the front element of the lens.
That was actually one of the things I considered and why I thought auto cap + filter and not just the Panasonic one.
 

davidzvi

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Apr 18, 2014
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David
I use neither the autocap or a filter. I use the cap that comes with the camera, attached to the lanyard that is also provided. The lanyard is just long enough to prevent problems if you switch on the camera and the lens extends with the cap still attached.

Here's a link to the beginning of a series on setting up the LX100 that you might find useful: http://cameraergonomics.blogspot.com/2014/12/setting-up-lx100-part-1-basic-decisions.html?q=lx100

Cheers, Jock
Thanks he has like 30+ posts on the LX100 :(;). Guess I have some reading to do. :sleep:

Main reason I'm considering the auto at all is I also have the Panasonic GM5 with the 12-32 lens. I installed the Olympus 14-42 auto cap on it and it works well, REALLY convenient. but it takes up almost no space and is the sliding aperture style. I have plenty of other glass for other systems so it's not like dealing with a caps is a new experience.
 
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MoonMind

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Dec 29, 2013
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Matt
I have the (Panasonic) auto cap - yes, it works well and makes the camera fit for one-handed operation, but it's not fully sealed (like the original lens cap is), so you'll have more dust and lint getting on the lens, and maybe further into the camera. I have gone back to the original cap, but will keep the auto cap - it has been useful a couple of times, and if I'm out to do street or stroll photography, it's very convenient and worth it. I just have to remember to quickly inspect the lens as soon as I'm back home.

From what I read, there is hardly any problem to be expected when using the JJC instead of the original - I'd say go for it if you want an auto cap.

As for filters: I don't use (protective) filters on digital cameras. I have to be a bit more cautious this way, but that's about it. I'm more concerned with what a breaking filter (or filter thread) would do to my camera, really. But of course, if you have use for filters (like polarisation), I'd try it out - I'd just skip the protective filter notion ...

M.
 

MoonMind

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Matt
I've voted "no, doesn't work well". I tried the autocap on the Fuji X10 a couple of years ago. I found that it wasn't really any more convenient than a standard snap-cap and in my bag the "leaves" of the cap would press back onto the front element of the lens.
Just to mention it: The Panasonic cap doesn't do that - but it manages that by being rather bigger than you might think (or like ...).

M.
 
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dalethorn

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I use neither the autocap or a filter. I use the cap that comes with the camera, attached to the lanyard that is also provided. The lanyard is just long enough to prevent problems if you switch on the camera and the lens extends with the cap still attached.

Here's a link to the beginning of a series on setting up the LX100 that you might find useful: http://cameraergonomics.blogspot.com/2014/12/setting-up-lx100-part-1-basic-decisions.html?q=lx100

Cheers, Jock
It's barely long enough if you're using the Zoom Return (to maximum zoom) feature, and you're careful enough to align the lens string for shortest distance to the camera lug. I don't use the zoom return feature anymore because of this.
 

davidzvi

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Apr 18, 2014
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David
I've voted "no, doesn't work well". I tried the autocap on the Fuji X10 a couple of years ago. I found that it wasn't really any more convenient than a standard snap-cap and in my bag the "leaves" of the cap would press back onto the front element of the lens.
Just to mention it: The Panasonic cap doesn't do that - but it manages that by being rather bigger than you might think (or like ...).

M.
I wonder if the JJC does this because there is room for a filter? Matt, with the Panasonic version on do the leaves actually touch the thread mount of the LX100 lens or close enough that the threads would stop any real movement? The JJC looks actually larger than the Panasonic, both in thickness (it fits a filter inside after all) and in diameter.

There is a new in the box Panasonic cap over on FM I'll looking at that's just a couple buck over the price of the JJC.
 

MoonMind

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Matt
I wonder if the JJC does this because there is room for a filter? Matt, with the Panasonic version on do the leaves actually touch the thread mount of the LX100 lens or close enough that the threads would stop any real movement? The JJC looks actually larger than the Panasonic, both in thickness (it fits a filter inside after all) and in diameter.
Well, I'm not at home currently and in no position to make sure, and to answer your question truthfully, I really would have to check first. If noone else chimes in, I'll try and remember to check it as soon as I'm home (not before the middle of next week, I'm afraid). Don't hesitate to PM me should I forget it. But my hunch is that your assessment is correct ...

M.
 
I own the jjc auto lens cap. For me it works well. I use it w/ a uv filter attached. I also bought one for the 12-32 Panasonic as well. The jjc is design to work w/ a filter attached. If u don't use a filter, it is probably better to get the Panasonic version.

Gary
 

Jock Elliott

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It's barely long enough if you're using the Zoom Return (to maximum zoom) feature, and you're careful enough to align the lens string for shortest distance to the camera lug. I don't use the zoom return feature anymore because of this.
Dale,

I don't use the zoom return feature either. I haven't tried it on either of my panasonics.

Cheers, Jock
 

MoonMind

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Matt
I switched off the return zoom feature on the LX100, too - I set the zoom lever around the shutter button to step zoom and the ring around the lens to stepless (it's still available for MF if I switch to that). I'm not up to remembering the last zoom setting I used, so it was sometimes downright off-putting - and it takes some time, depending on the focal length set ... Actually, I had run into the same issue with my old Canon S95 before.

M.
 
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davidzvi

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Apr 18, 2014
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David
I have step on the ring and step-less on the lever, but I might change it around.

Just picked up the Panasonic auto for $16, figure at that price it's worth a try.
 

davidzvi

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Apr 18, 2014
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David
I use neither the autocap or a filter. I use the cap that comes with the camera, attached to the lanyard that is also provided. The lanyard is just long enough to prevent problems if you switch on the camera and the lens extends with the cap still attached.

Here's a link to the beginning of a series on setting up the LX100 that you might find useful: http://cameraergonomics.blogspot.com/2014/12/setting-up-lx100-part-1-basic-decisions.html?q=lx100

Cheers, Jock
I'm not sure he actually likes the LX100
 

MoonMind

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Matt
I'm not sure he actually likes the LX100
Don't listen to him, then ;) It's a great little camera, and definitely something to shake up that part of the market. The handling advantages over many other premium fixed-lens cameras are more than impressive - if you're not bothered about the size, it's one of the most satisfying cameras I ever shot with (I shouldn't have handled a friend's Leica Q, though - but that's in a totally different league). IQ is good too, even though I'm a bit spoiled by the results my other cameras give me ...

M.
 

davidzvi

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Apr 18, 2014
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David
I can see many of his issues, but his perfect camera is not everyone's.

Swapped the level and ring (step on the level, step less on the ring), like it better thanks. Seems better for the one handed or portrait LCD use for sure.
 

Jock Elliott

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I'm not sure he actually likes the LX100
Now why would you think that?

The LX100 is part of my two-camera solution, and I do, indeed, like the LX100; it's my see-in-the-dark camera. The other half of the two Camera solution is the Fz200, and it is actually, for everyday usage and the kind of photography that I do most often, the FZ200 is more versatile, by dint of the wider zoom range.

However -- and it's a big however -- at the margins of the day, the LX100 delivers the goods in terms of low-light sensitivity, dynamic range, and so forth.

I commend unto you this: https://www.photographerslounge.org/threads/33137/

and this: https://www.photographerslounge.org/threads/32152/

Cheers, Jock
 

davidzvi

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Apr 18, 2014
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David
Now why would you think that?

The LX100 is part of my two-camera solution, and I do, indeed, like the LX100; it's my see-in-the-dark camera. The other half of the two Camera solution is the Fz200, and it is actually, for everyday usage and the kind of photography that I do most often, the FZ200 is more versatile, by dint of the wider zoom range.

However -- and it's a big however -- at the margins of the day, the LX100 delivers the goods in terms of low-light sensitivity, dynamic range, and so forth.

I commend unto you this: https://www.photographerslounge.org/threads/33137/

and this: https://www.photographerslounge.org/threads/32152/

Cheers, Jock
I'm sorry, is the Camera Ergonomics Blog yours'? While the writer uses it, he spent a good amount of time writing about what he fines wrong with it. It is an interesting read with a lot of information. I just can't figure out if he like the camera or not.
 

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