Fuji X-E3 vs Oly Pen F

davidzvi

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Apr 18, 2014
Boston Burbs
David
The Pen F was a great camera. If the AF works for you it’s a fun camera to use and it is beautifully made. It’s a great jpeg camera with lots of really useful image adjustment options.
I forgot I was going to add something here:

The AF of my X70 was one of the reason I got the X-E3. The X70 is fine for a lot of what I tend to shoot when I'm out and about. But there are times when the single point AF is just not fast enough. I know the AF tracking of the X-E3 is better than that on the Pen F, but single point AF on m4/3 is really pretty darn quick. And it's rare that I don't know I'll need track/phase AF ahead of time and I have the E-M1.2 for that.
 
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davidzvi

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Apr 18, 2014
Boston Burbs
David
Update:

The refurb Pen F went back to Olympus. Three reasons:
  • Hot shoes seemed a little flaky, I could get the flash not to trigger about as easily as I could get it to trigger.
  • It was silver (prefer black) and it was a bit beat. I've gotten a few things from Oly refurb'd (as have others here and on mu-43) and the condition was a bit surprising (the mode dial was banged up, hard to do to a metal dial).
  • It had 22,000 shots, yes 22,000. Kind of explains the condition and I was kind of shocked it was that high.
But I found one over on DPR so now I have a nearly new Pen F (145 shots) and 17mm f/1.8 to go with my E-M1.2.

How does it compare to the X-E3 and X70?

AF on the X-E3 was better in lower light and lower contrast situations. However because single point AF is so fast and the lenses AF so quickly, the Pen F seems faster in general use. The X70 was a bit slower even with the hybrid PDAF+CDAF, that probably comes down to the lens.

I'm sure I'll miss the size and weight of the X70. The Pen is heavier than the X-E3, but the Fuji lenses make up for some of that.

I REALLY wish the Pen F was a tilt screen instead of articulated. I'll miss that from the X70, but something is better than nothing on the X-E3. Looking over the stuff I shot for SiJy I know half had the screen tilted, Sure I could have used the X-E3, but it was easier with it.

One of the things that drew me to the Fuji (the X70 and X-E3) was in use they made me want to slow down the process a bit. So far I think the Pen F will do the same.

But as I mentioned, one of the things that was bugging me was how the X-E3 handled differently with my different lenses. On the Pen I actually found I can change the exposure comp dial to be flash comp. Yes this means that the dedicated dial is less useful. But it allows me to set the f/r control dials to function exactly the same as they do on the E-M1.2. For me that's a plus.

There are a few things I have to finish syncing up. But for now I think I made the right choice. My only real "decision" right now is do I get the Pan 14mm or just use the Pan 12-32 I already have for my really small kit? Or do I get a slightly larger bag/pouch that will fit the Pen F and 17mm?
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Biro

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Aug 7, 2011
Jersey Shore
Steve
Get the Oly 17mm f/1.8. It's an essential Oly lens. And get the 12mm f/2.0, too. But if you can only afford one at a time, get the 17. And a bag. I have an Ona Bowery for my Pen F kit. It carries the Pen with one lens attached, 2-3 other Oly primes, the flash, a third-party battery charger and an extra battery and memory card.
 

davidzvi

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Apr 18, 2014
Boston Burbs
David
Get the Oly 17mm f/1.8. It's an essential Oly lens. And get the 12mm f/2.0, too. But if you can only afford one at a time, get the 17. And a bag. I have an Ona Bowery for my Pen F kit. It carries the Pen with one lens attached, 2-3 other Oly primes, the flash, a third-party battery charger and an extra battery and memory card.
That's the 17 on the Pen F, it's do I get a larger pouch? I also already have the Bowery and a Think Tank Speed Changer. The Pen F + 12-32 or 14mm (like the GX85 with either and the X-E3 + 27mm) fit in a great smaller option, the National Geographic NG 1153. It weights next to nothing and can even fit a large jacket pocket. It's a bit smaller than a Mirrorless Mover 5.

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Jonathan F/2

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Aug 21, 2011
Los Angeles, USA
I'd stick with the 12-32mm. I've probably bought ten copies of the 14mm 2.5 lens and I always sell them! Plus I think the 12-32mm focuses a tad faster. The Pan 15mm 1.7 is a nice lens though, and I like it better than the 17mm 1.8!
 

rayvonn

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Jan 19, 2015
Definitely worth trying out the 17 in a shop as opposed to through eBay. I remember from my time in m43 that some were better than others. The good ones were really good.
 

davidzvi

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Apr 18, 2014
Boston Burbs
David
Definitely worth trying out the 17 in a shop as opposed to through eBay. I remember from my time in m43 that some were better than others. The good ones were really good.
The O17 I got with the Pen seems pretty good, I've had a few and not really had a bad one.

I'd stick with the 12-32mm. I've probably bought ten copies of the 14mm 2.5 lens and I always sell them! Plus I think the 12-32mm focuses a tad faster. The Pan 15mm 1.7 is a nice lens though, and I like it better than the 17mm 1.8!
Ten? You beat me on that one. I think 4-5 is the most I've had of any one lens. The though of the 14mm is more a size and that I liked the X70's 28mm eq. I go back and forth between liking 28mm and 35mm.

I have a thread (from a couple years back) on the PL15 over on mu-43. Something like the "best lenses you don't like". I've owned it 2-3 times and just don't get along with it. After realizing one of the reasons I was having issues with the X-E3* I have to wonder if I was having the same issue with the PL15?

I'll probably just sit tight for now, Olympus updated their lens roadmap and included an "ultra-compact M.Zuiko Digital ED 12-45mm F4.0 PRO". I doubt it will be as small as the Pan 12-32, but it does sound like it would be a good fit for the Pen and for the E-M1.2 when I don't want to carry the 12-100. Time will tell, but they were pretty good about getting the 12-200 out once the details were released.

*On one body you control "A" for this lens here, other lenses or this lens on other bodies, you control "A" there. Very similar to how the X-E3 worked with the 18mm and 27mm lenses.
 

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