Fuji Full frame X tran camera

marco67

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anyone hoping for a ff x trans camera?
I rarely see discusssions about this possibility, but I shot with many vintage lens and I deeply hope for a ff sensor!

what's your opinion?

Cheers, Marco
 

Lightmancer

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In short, no. I see no real-world usage or benefit for my purposes and I think it would be counter-productive for Fuji. I would rather see them bring out a good, compact MF solution for travel photographers.
 

marco67

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sony is already doing it... i would love a high performing x trans ff sensor... it would crush sony and any eventually canon / nikon ff ml camera! and you know they will get to a serious ml camera.
mf requires lens bigger than ff so travel photography is hard with mf....
 

tyrphoto

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What I'm looking forward too is the XPro2. If they bring out the best of the X100T, XT1 and XPro1, it'll be a camera that'll get my dollars.
 

Armanius

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I'd be thrilled with the following:

XP2
- Hybrid OVF, with new big EVF like that on the XT-1;
- ISO dial with optional lock
- Shutter dial with optional lock
- Fully articulated touch sensitive rear LCD
- Max mechanical shutter speed of 1/8000
- Electronic shutter speed of 1/32000
- 24 MP
- AF speed and accuracy of XT-1 or better
- Weatherproof
- Built in flash
- Same size as the XP1
- In body image stabilization

And all of that priced at just $499 USD. :)
 

Kay

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I'd be thrilled with the following:
...
And all of that priced at just $499 USD. :)
Hopefully this also includes a Lightroom 6 license :biggrin:

Some reasons for me to upgrade would be 14 bit RAW, an option to turn the bloody noise cancellation OFF, better MF aids in the viewfinder, environmental sealing and if they somehow manage to make that brick a bit smaller.
 
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Lightmancer

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No.

I have had this debate many times. "consumer choice" is NOT "Hobson's Choice". I do not want a pro-spec body with amateur "featurettes" that effectively simultaneously add to the complexity and compromise the integrity of that body.

I am an available light shooter; I can count the number of times I have used a built-in flash on any camera of any variety in the last ten years on the fingers of one foot; any picture taken with a built-in flash looks... rubbish.

Equally, I abhor tilty screens which are just one more thing to go wrong. I have two cameras with tilty screens (X-T1 and X-M1) and have used them precisely zero times. In fact I have taped the buggers down.

Touch-screens? I have one on my 'phone. I want to hold my camera firmly, and control it's primary functions via "buttons" and "dials", not pecking away on a screen with a greasy digit. I regard touchscreens with the same level of detestation as self-service supermarket check-outs and food served on boards and slates instead of plates - "progress" that is as welcome as a fart in a lift.

I know I am a lone voice on these things, but I am deadly serious. I would regard the inclusion of these items on an X-Pro2 as a seriously retrograde step; a plummet from "prosumer" to "consumer".
 

Isoterica

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I'd be thrilled with the following:

XP2
- Hybrid OVF, with new big EVF like that on the XT-1;
- ISO dial with optional lock
- Shutter dial with optional lock
- Fully articulated touch sensitive rear LCD
- Max mechanical shutter speed of 1/8000
- Electronic shutter speed of 1/32000
- 24 MP
- AF speed and accuracy of XT-1 or better
- Weatherproof
- Built in flash
- Same size as the XP1
- In body image stabilization

And all of that priced at just $499 USD. :)


Sounds like the Xt1 .. minus 8 MP and IBIS. I'd actually like that in the XT1 successor, plus two memory card capability, seems like there is room. And less flimsy access doors. FF would be nice but at least 24MP.
 

carlb

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I've been out of the Fuji loop for a bit too long. Wow, a FF Xpro2?

Please let them have made the mount to sensor distance small enough to support Leica M lenses ... !

Any ideas on which of the Fuji lenses will cover the full-frame sensor well?

And Bill, don't sugar-coat your opinions, just tell us what you really think. :biggrin:
 
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bartjeej

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To me, the compositional advantages of a tilting screen far outweigh any decrease in sturdiness, provided the manufacturer gives it a strong mechanism. On my Samsung EX1, the joint of the rotating screen feels like you could use it as a hammer, and I have zero worries about it.

As for full frame: it would be nice to be able to use legacy lenses with Fuji's super straightforward control layout and fantastic jpegs; as good as the Sony a7 series are, they could learn from Fuji in this regard. I don't believe X-trans really offers that much of an advantage over Bayer, especially as megapixel counts rise, but if it makes Fuji feel better about themselves, I won't object.

Besides a FF sensor, I'd like to see Fuji add USB charging (they've already included it on some recent models, but not the X-T1 or X-Pro1) and onboard flash (not for nighttime shots, but for fill flash, which the X100 does fantastically, no matter what Bill may say :p ). IBIS and global electronic shutter would be icing on the cake. I'm expecting any high end body to be weather sealed from now on; I'm a bit surprised that the X100T didn't feature it.
 

Kay

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I don't give a .... on FF right now, I simply don't need it. Flippy screens have played out their advantages on my NEXes, a nice to have but no real need. Onboard flash, why not, at least Fuji should provide us with a small add-on flash, like the one that comes with the X-T1. I'm 100% with Bart on weather (dust) sealing. I shot one Nikon F3 for almost 25 years, took it through hell and back more than once and didn't have a single speck of dust in the OVF, but had 3 digital snappers serviced in the last 3 years because of this. No appropriate seals - no money from now on. OTOH my X-Pro1 and some lenses have been through their share of saltwater spray without any probs whatsoever.
 

Lightmancer

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Happy to see USB charging as an option, but NOT as an either-or. I have a GR that has it, and have just sent back an XQ1 with the same "feature". My objection is simple; when travelling it is more important to me to have one battery on charge and one in the camera than to not carry a charger but have the camera "tied up" while charging.
 

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