- Location
- Central California Sierra Foothills
The "jury is still out" on that.So I guess that means you’re keeping the lens?
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- Thread starter BillN
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- Los Angeles
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- John
Darmok N Jalad
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- Location
- Tanagra
Upgrades have been completed. Dual X5690s, 48GB RAM. Such a wonderful bit of engineering. The dual coolers aren't installed, but they have variable speed fans (that can be controlled by MacsFanControl), and temperature sensors on the copper heatsink bases (and near each memory slot). 13 years old and still quite speedy.
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Darmok N Jalad
There are FOUR lights!
- Location
- Tanagra
They are quite cheap on eBay these days. There's some work involved, and some forum support is helpful to get some things going, especially things like running newer OSes. This thing actually runs Windows 11 just fine, too, despite being unsupported in both TPM and CPU.
- Location
- Beaumaris, Melbourne, Australia
- Name
- John ...
Congrats, Randy. Have you had it up and running for practical use? Is there a huge difference in practical performance?
Good on you for getting more life out of this beastie, rather than consigning it to the scrapheap, like so many other Apple products that are specifically designed not to be upgraded in any way.
That latter reminds me of HP file servers in the 1990s. IIRC, there were 37 different ones, at one stage. Not one single one of which could be upgraded to the next level up!
And we wonder why the world's a mess ... !
Specs for your new CPUs:
Intel® Xeon® Processor X5690 (12M Cache, 3.46 GHz, 6.40 GT/s Intel® QPI) Product Specifications
Intel® Xeon® Processor X5690 (12M Cache, 3.46 GHz, 6.40 GT/s Intel® QPI) quick reference guide including specifications, features, pricing, compatibility, design documentation, ordering codes, spec codes and more.
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Darmok N Jalad
There are FOUR lights!
- Location
- Tanagra
Yeah, it’s my “daily driver,” as they say. About the only thing that is slow is when On1 loads a RAF for editing (a couple seconds sometimes), and when it applies any AI denoising and sharpening. Otherwise it’s still quite snappy. With the PCIe adapter, I get 1400 MB/s r/w speeds on the NVME, which certainly isn’t top end, but still very fast for anything not video editing. Currently my GPU is an RX 480 8GB, but I’m eyeing an RX 5600 XT as a potential upgrade. It’s about 165% of the performance as the old Polaris cars, and that might speed up some of the AI stuff since that uses the GPU for a good deal of those tasks. Usually more GPU memory bandwidth is your friend on that stuff.Congrats, Randy. Have you had it up and running for practical use? Is there a huge difference in practical performance?
Good on you for getting more life out of this beastie, rather than consigning it to the scrapheap, like so many other Apple products that are specifically designed not to be upgraded in any way.
That latter reminds me of HP file servers in the 1990s. IIRC, there were 37 different ones, at one stage. Not one single one of which could be upgraded to the next level up!
And we wonder why the world's a mess ... !
Specs for your new CPUs:
Intel® Xeon® Processor X5690 (12M Cache, 3.46 GHz, 6.40 GT/s Intel® QPI) Product Specifications
Intel® Xeon® Processor X5690 (12M Cache, 3.46 GHz, 6.40 GT/s Intel® QPI) quick reference guide including specifications, features, pricing, compatibility, design documentation, ordering codes, spec codes and more.
Interestingly, many of these slowdowns are less noticeable to nonexistent on Windows 11. Perhaps On1 prefers Windows, or maybe it’s just much better/newer driver support for the AMD card.
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- Beaumaris, Melbourne, Australia
- Name
- John ...
Perhaps Windows 10/11 are just better optimised for the dual CPUs and multiple cores.
Windows NT was designed from the ground up to support and optimise multiple CPUs and multiple cores (see Helen Custer "Inside Windows NT" {first edition}). Dual CPU motherboards weren't common when Windows NT 3.0 was first released, but they were available. I supplied a couple to clients.
OTOH, Unix/Linux and Novell all employed kludges to support these.
Watching how the 20 cores work on my new PC is interesting and instructive. 8x dual cores plus 4x single cores in an Intel i7-12700 CPU.
Another interesting bit of info is that my relatively recent tablet runs a
Helio G90T Mediatek CPU with 2x cores plus 6x cores, 8 cores in total. How things have changed!!
Darmok N Jalad
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- Location
- Tanagra
Hard to say. I know Macs have had dual processor configurations for a long long time. I owned a Dual 1.8GHz G5 PowerMac ages ago, but I believe there were dual G4s before that, too. I think with On1, it's the way it handles non-destructive edits. It appears to render all your post-processing again when you come back to an older file, including the noise reduction, which can take 10+ seconds to complete, depending on which option you chose. That's mainly when browsing with edit mode active. There's a non-edit browsing mode that's much faster. Seems to just be a design choice from the developers.
- Location
- Beaumaris, Melbourne, Australia
- Name
- John ...
Some interesting historical info here:
Darmok N Jalad
There are FOUR lights!
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- Tanagra
Yeah, I had the air cooled dual 1.8s. I remember playing Halo on it. Fun story about that game. It was originally developed for Mac, but MS bought the studio and had them rewrite/retool it to work on Xbox as the flagship game. It didn't get released on Mac until much later, as a port of the console game, so it was less optimized for the hardware. Macs have never been much for gaming, but MS kinda had a hand in that. Hard to say, since maybe Bungie's vision of the game wouldn't have been as successful.
- Location
- Central California Sierra Foothills
Well ..... the "jury has reached a verdict" / going to relinquish the rights of ownership and put it up for sale.So I guess that means you’re keeping the lens?
Just had to give it a try. Love the I.Q. but it's just too much lens for my needs.
