Inspired by the 17mm thread.....

Djarum

All-Pro
Jul 10, 2010
123
Huntsville, AL
Jason
Took these yesterday with the 17mm and E-PL2. CC always welcomed.

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At first, I had no idea what this was until closer inspection. 17mm with ND8 at f2.8.



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And last night:


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Streetshooter

Administrator Emeritus
Jul 12, 2010
123
Philly, Pa
Jason, the tonal separation is amazing. Not many lenses do it so well.
Ok, ok.... hammer me..... all youse with yer high priced prime lenses.....
 

pdh

Legend
Jan 2, 2011
123
Djarum, you'd have been very welcome to post these in the thread that inspired 'em you know ... :)
 

Djarum

All-Pro
Jul 10, 2010
123
Huntsville, AL
Jason
Shooter, I'll have to look up tonal seperation. As far as high priced, the 2 c notes I paid seemed to be a bargain.

Andy, the lens is sharp enough for me. I also like the close focus abilities of the lens. No, its not as fast as the 20m, but I love the 17mm fov.

Pdh, I just didn't want to hijack your thread.:)

Thanks all for the comments. All of them are ooc jpegs.
 

pdh

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Jan 2, 2011
123
Pdh, I just didn't want to hijack your thread.:)
Funnily enough, I never started it to be a share thread, but it turned into one ... maybe the two could be merged? (unless you want to keep this one for your images , which is perfectly understandable)
 

Djarum

All-Pro
Jul 10, 2010
123
Huntsville, AL
Jason
pdh,

Personally, I don't care either way. The thread was started for two reasons. First, I sometimes don't use the 17mm as much as I like, so I thought I'd take it for a spin. Secondly, I'm still fumbling around with the E-PL2 (I know the E-P1 like the back of my hand). The thread was a cullmination of both those objectives in mind. Funny thing is, the 17mm I think is a better match on the E-P1 in terms of style, but I think I like the images from the E-PL2 better with it. Might have to do with that weaker AA filter. Not sure yet.
 

Luckypenguin

Hall of Famer
Dec 24, 2010
123
Brisbane, Australia
Nic
While my E-P1 offers a superior set of controls, the E-PL1 I got recently also shows a subtle but noticeable bump in IQ in comparison. The handling also works better for me as well, although the lack of a control wheel can be an issue at times. With that in mind I think the E-PL2 would be the best featured compact m4/3 body for me to go with my GH1.
 

Djarum

All-Pro
Jul 10, 2010
123
Huntsville, AL
Jason
Nic,

This is slightly off topic, but just a few pennies. The one thing I'm having to come to terms with is that I always felt the LCD and images on the E-P1 were reasonably close to how the images look on my home and work monitor. The E-PL2 is a different case. While the increased resolution is nice, the LCD seems to give the pictures a cooler tone than they actually have and the screen doesn't seem to have the dynamic range that the E-P1 screen had. The other positive about the E-PL2 Screen is that it does get brigther than the E-P1 which makes framing easier in strong sunlight.
 

Luckypenguin

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Dec 24, 2010
123
Brisbane, Australia
Nic
Hey Jason, thanks for the info. It sounds like the similar issue I had with my GH1 compared to the E-P1, only in reverse. As you say the E-P1 LCD is remarkably accurate for colour, but the GH1 screen shows colours that are more saturated than is actually the case. The E-PL1 on the other hand seems to show colours accurately but is not as nice to look at as the E-P1.
 

Lili

Hall of Famer
Oct 17, 2010
123
Dallas, TX
Lili
Interesting discussion. I have both the E-PL1 and E-PL2. In regards to the LCD the bigger, sharper screen is wonderful on the 2. However at default the screen on the first PL more accurately depicts the brightness than does the second gen. Image looks perfect on the screen of the 2 but has to be raised in exp comp to look the same on the PC. On the PL2 one needs to watch that histogram!
However that brightness make it much easier to use in sunlight. The dial versus button UI is a bit easier to use but is more vulnerable to being accidentally disturbed.
For me what the PL2 brings most to the table is that it fit my hand far better, more secure.
I actually consider getting a black 17mm to match my black E-PL2.
I know, I iz fashun victum ;)
 

Djarum

All-Pro
Jul 10, 2010
123
Huntsville, AL
Jason
This discussion has gone onto a tangent, oh well.

Lili,

Your experiences seem similar to those over at mu-43. When I first started using it, I "thought" I needed to underexpose more than I normally would, like I do on the E-P1 to protect highlights. What I figured out was that the E-PL2 screen brightness is higher by default. I also think the dynamic range of the screen is also lower, even though the overall brightness is actually higher of the PL2 screen, in comparsion to the E-P1. Other's have commented on this over at mu-43. I think what would be nice is for a contrast adjustment on the screen as well. I also don't care for that real strong blue tinge the E-PL2 screen has, either. I think it is an AR coating type thing, and works good in sunlight, but in normal indoor light, it really isn't that nice.
 

Lili

Hall of Famer
Oct 17, 2010
123
Dallas, TX
Lili
This discussion has gone onto a tangent, oh well.

Lili,

Your experiences seem similar to those over at mu-43. When I first started using it, I "thought" I needed to underexpose more than I normally would, like I do on the E-P1 to protect highlights. What I figured out was that the E-PL2 screen brightness is higher by default. I also think the dynamic range of the screen is also lower, even though the overall brightness is actually higher of the PL2 screen, in comparsion to the E-P1. Other's have commented on this over at mu-43. I think what would be nice is for a contrast adjustment on the screen as well. I also don't care for that real strong blue tinge the E-PL2 screen has, either. I think it is an AR coating type thing, and works good in sunlight, but in normal indoor light, it really isn't that nice.

D'oh sorry to go off topic! I had not noted the coolness you speak of BTW. Not at least compared to the E-PL1...
 

Djarum

All-Pro
Jul 10, 2010
123
Huntsville, AL
Jason
Lili,

Thats fine being off topic. It's my topic, so I say its fine :wink:

The E-P1 LCD screen has a bluish AR coating on it as well, but it is much stronger on the E-PL2. I may need to get a screen protector for the E-PL2 which might eliminate some of that.
 

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