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rayvonn said:
Great that Sigma's on board, as far as I'm aware the only complaint about them is that they're too perfect, which is not a bad problem to have! Wouldn't surprise me if they're on par with the APOs actually so I might have a search around (not now, there's food and drink to be consumed).
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I had a Sigma 40mm a while ago but it was really just too sharp! Swapped it for the 35mm 1.2 and although it's large and heavy, I love the rendering :)
 
pdk42 said:
You may find this post I did interesting.

LIttle ISO test EM1.3 vs S1R vs S5

I was curious to see how well these three cameras performed now that we have modern NR techniques to help with noise. So, I took shots (in raw) at increasingly high ISOs with each camera and then used LR's "Enhance" NR feature to clean each image up as best I could. The scene was a dimly-lit...
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It compares the noise vs ISO, after modern NR, between the S1R (same sensor as SL2) and the S5 (same sensor as the SL2S). I threw in the EM1.3 for good measure.

Look also at christilou’s images above with the SL2S. That 24Mp sensor may be seen as a bit long in the tooth, but it delivers gorgeous files even at higher ISOs.
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So I caved. I ordered the SL2-S from B&H, the price is just too good to not give it a try. It will come with the Leica M to L adapter(unfortunately it is on backorder 😞), an extra battery and a screen protector. I also ordered the Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 DG DN II Art lens. Since the adapter is on backorder, I placed an order for a Fotasy adapter on Amazon to tide me over. The SL2-S is being shipped overnight for free, very nice. I will most likely get the Sigma 35mm f2 DG DN prime, I have it in Sony mount and I like the size and image quality. I foresee only a handful of AF lenses and of course using my M mount lenses on it. My M11-P will remain my travel camera due to its size. MF with the rangefinder has not been an issue for me.

If I am happy with the SL2-S, I I will most likely sell off my Sony gear which I just don't enjoy using. While the image quality of Sony is excellent, the ergonomics and use frustrates me more than it pleases me. I have been debating this move for some time now. I got to play with the SL2, SL2-S and the SL3 at the Leica store in Amsterdam this past summer. I was very tempted to buy as they had quite a few used SL2 and SL2-S bodies on hand from those who had traded them in on the SL3. I did not want to make an impulse decision so it has been percolating in my mind. While the SL3 is intriguing and I will probably cave on that some day as well, the price right now, even for used is too high. I think the SL2-S will be a good fit for what I want out of FF at this point in time. The low light capabilities and the colors are what pushed me over the edge, as did the images on this thread.
 
BruceRH said:
So I caved. I ordered the SL2-S from B&H, the price is just too good to not give it a try. It will come with the Leica M to L adapter(unfortunately it is on backorder 😞), an extra battery and a screen protector. I also ordered the Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 DG DN II Art lens. Since the adapter is on backorder, I placed an order for a Fotasy adapter on Amazon to tide me over. The SL2-S is being shipped overnight for free, very nice. I will most likely get the Sigma 35mm f2 DG DN prime, I have it in Sony mount and I like the size and image quality. I foresee only a handful of AF lenses and of course using my M mount lenses on it. My M11-P will remain my travel camera due to its size. MF with the rangefinder has not been an issue for me.

If I am happy with the SL2-S, I I will most likely sell off my Sony gear which I just don't enjoy using. While the image quality of Sony is excellent, the ergonomics and use frustrates me more than it pleases me. I have been debating this move for some time now. I got to play with the SL2, SL2-S and the SL3 at the Leica store in Amsterdam this past summer. I was very tempted to buy as they had quite a few used SL2 and SL2-S bodies on hand from those who had traded them in on the SL3. I did not want to make an impulse decision so it has been percolating in my mind. While the SL3 is intriguing and I will probably cave on that some day as well, the price right now, even for used is too high. I think the SL2-S will be a good fit for what I want out of FF at this point in time. The low light capabilities and the colors are what pushed me over the edge, as did the images on this thread.
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Well done Bruce. Looking forward to your thoughts, and images, in due course.

I’m mulling over getting the Sigma 24-70 f2.8 ii as well. I’ve recently been using my 24-105 wide open and there’s noticeable softening towards the long end.
 
Well, a lot has happened since I posted a couple of days ago...

pdk42 said:
Of course, the SL2S is pretty much the same camera as the Panasonic S1. And the S5, from a sensor and image pipeline point of view, is pretty much the same as them both.
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Yeah, the Panasonic's are definitely an option to consider. I like the S5 series for the smaller size. But, the allure of the SL series is the Leica menus & controls. Very intuitive and would match up with my Q2, making a nicer pairing.

pdk42 said:
I ran Canon DSLRs until I got into m43 in 2013. My last Canon body was the 5dii and It was a revelation to get pretty much the same IQ out of a little EPL5. So I went on a ten year crusade for small camera bodies. The first time I saw the Panasonic S1 I laughed openly at the the folly of making such a behemoth.

But I got an S1R in 2023 and I have grown to absolutely love it. It’s the same size, more or less, as the old 5dii and it feels good to be back using a meaty camera. It feels good in the hand and it’s easier to operate than the m43 cameras I’ve been used to. Sure it’s a bit heavier, but what’s 300g in the big scheme of things?

Try renting an SL2 or SL3 and see what it’s like with a longer period to adapt to it. Or even pickup a used S1 - they are now very cheap. If you like it and if you’ve got the cash, go for that SL3. YOLO!
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This aligns with my thinking over the past couple of years. I used to be in a race to the smallest, most compact camera, but that comes with sacrifices in terms of handling and features (ie. EVF size) when the bodies become too small.

Also, if a bag is needed to carry, then the camera/lens sizing becomes less important - proper bag selection will allow for many camera options. For me, the key size is the depth of the lens, as that has the greatest impact when packing imo, as most cameras are similar in thickness, although heights of bodies obviously vary (i.e. SL2 vs Sony A7C - my current ILC).

BruceRH said:
A brand new SL2-S with the Leica M to L adapter, an extra battery and a screen protector can be had for $2995, that is very tempting. But then I found a "used excellent" SL2 with a M to L adapter for $2600. The low light capabilities of the SL2-S is attractive. Then the extra resolution of the SL2 would also be nice and with today's denoise software I lean more towards the SL2. And no, I have only had my coffee so far!
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Oh wow - that is a great deal for new. I have been looking at used SL2-S bodies, as they have dropped a fair bit to around $2K or so, but this deal with the extras is really an excellent value.

rayvonn said:
Bear in mind there's the faintest rumour of a FF CL next year too. Imagine if that was the same size as the current one.
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Yes please Leica. I would love to see that, even if it were an SL2-S in a CL shaped body. Still think they are reluctant to do that, as it could impact their other camera lines. But, it could also further expand their market share (not sure they want, or have the capacity for that, though).

BruceRH said:
So I caved. I ordered the SL2-S from B&H, the price is just too good to not give it a try. It will come with the Leica M to L adapter(unfortunately it is on backorder 😞), an extra battery and a screen protector. I also ordered the Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 DG DN II Art lens. Since the adapter is on backorder, I placed an order for a Fotasy adapter on Amazon to tide me over. The SL2-S is being shipped overnight for free, very nice. I will most likely get the Sigma 35mm f2 DG DN prime, I have it in Sony mount and I like the size and image quality. I foresee only a handful of AF lenses and of course using my M mount lenses on it. My M11-P will remain my travel camera due to its size. MF with the rangefinder has not been an issue for me.

If I am happy with the SL2-S, I I will most likely sell off my Sony gear which I just don't enjoy using. While the image quality of Sony is excellent, the ergonomics and use frustrates me more than it pleases me. I have been debating this move for some time now. I got to play with the SL2, SL2-S and the SL3 at the Leica store in Amsterdam this past summer. I was very tempted to buy as they had quite a few used SL2 and SL2-S bodies on hand from those who had traded them in on the SL3. I did not want to make an impulse decision so it has been percolating in my mind. While the SL3 is intriguing and I will probably cave on that some day as well, the price right now, even for used is too high. I think the SL2-S will be a good fit for what I want out of FF at this point in time. The low light capabilities and the colors are what pushed me over the edge, as did the images on this thread.
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Congrats Bruce! That was quick action, but I'm excited for (and living vicariously through) you!

I am also looking to move on from Sony. As much as it works amazingly well, I just don't enjoy using it. The two main considerations are the SL2-S or the Nikon Zf. The latter with its manual dials and MF assist tools is particularly interesting. They also have some nice lens options that would cover my needs, but going L-mount offers up the Sigma line like the contemporary/I-series (I have the 45mm for my Sony and it's a lovely lens). Both the SL and Zf would provide much better MF on manual glass with their MF controls and MUCH nicer EVF's.

Anyways, back to you. Please share pics in the GAS and Gear Porn threads so that we can all enjoy in your new addition.
 
Thanks Craig, I am looking forward to the SL2-S and yes, it is a great deal for a new body IMHO. I have looked at many used ones and they tend to be around $2200. I am sure I could get someone down to $2000 but the difference between that and new with the adapter makes new very attractive to me. I looked at the Zf also, but I did not like the handling, it is basically a slab so I would definitely have had to get a grip of some sort. I do really like the Zf MF use of the green box showing you are in focus. The Zf body just did not gel with me. The SL2-S has the grip obviously but the biggest attraction to me is the simplicity of the Leica controls and menus. I love the Q series and of course the M so the SL2-S makes sense. I have the Sigma 35, 45 and 90 for Sony but I will probably only get the 35 for AF purposes. I have a 75 and 2 90mm M mount lenses and I really don't need AF for those focal lengths. With a 2.8 zoom and my current M lenses, I will be more than set. Any kind of long reach will still be handled by my Olympus bodies and lenses. I really like the Leica and Olympus combination where I can go small with the E-P7 or large with the OM-1. Ultimately though, the M11-P has by far become my favorite body to shoot with. The more I use it, the faster I have become with focusing and I really like the results. I am hoping the SL images I take will be just as satisfying, from what I have seen, I think I will be happy with them. I will defiantly share some pics and thoughts.
 
I ran a Z7 for a few months back in 2020 but eventually let it go. My exposure strategy is to use A mode with zebras/over-exposure indicators and exposure comp on a dial - but Nikon Z doesn’t support zebras in stills live view (only in video mode). It’s pretty much a deal breaker for me.
 
christilou said:
I am interested to see the reviews of the SL3-s when it comes out (January so they say). I don't really need it at all. I have other higher pixel cameras and they just make my Mac run slower.
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I will be interested too...maybe in a year or two. I am sure it will have the flippy screen and the new "soft" power button. When I tried the SL3 at a Leica store, that was one thing I really did not like. I much prefer a mechanical on/off switch.
 
christilou said:
I am interested to see the reviews of the SL3-s when it comes out (January so they say). I don't really need it at all. I have other higher pixel cameras and they just make my Mac run slower.
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I think I will pick up a used S1 at some point. I like the S1 ergonomics better than the S5 so having an S1 and an S1R covers me both for hi res and low light in the same body design.
 
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