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Maybe the time for a PHONE-CAMERA has finally come ...!!

Discussion in 'Ask B&H Photo' started by MarcusGR, Oct 1, 2010.

  1. MarcusGR

    MarcusGR Rookie

    Sep 11, 2010
    In a few days Panasonic is expected to enter the camera-phones arena with something which should be more of a phone-camera rather than the "usual" camera-phone !!!
    I think it is (was?) high time for launching a full-fledged pocket-camera sporting a simple phone, rather than the other way round !!! It looks as something within easy reach of modern technology, which some not-so-obscure marketing agreement has been holding back ... Now it appears Panasonic might have done it again, marking the begininng of a new era for pocket-camera enthusiasts!
    Among sources telling about this oncoming "Lumix" phone, this one seems to have a little more: Panasonic Lumix Phone, 13 Megapixels, Touch Screen | Gadget Lab | Wired.com
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  2. Andrewteee

    Andrewteee All-Pro

    Jul 8, 2010
    As long as it's not on the AT&T network...

    BTW having a nice camera on the phone is useful, but with the iPhone the photography apps are what make it really interesting. I would wonder if the Panasonic phone/camera (phamera?) would have those too? Presumably it is based on one of the major mobile OSs.
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  3. BBW

    BBW Administrator Emeritus

    Jul 7, 2010
    betwixt and between
    Agreed, Andrew, about it being on the AT&T network - this written, I must disclose, by a Verizon wireless customer.:wink:

    Marcus, this will be interesting I'm sure!

    Andrew, I've seen some fantastic shots via the iPhone...but of course I don't know how any would print out.
  4. deirdre

    deirdre Top Veteran

    Sep 26, 2010
    For me, what will be interesting is how big a sensor they put in it and what tradeoffs they have to make for that. And how good they make the camera's IQ.

    The iPhone 4 camera can be pretty remarkable:

    View attachment 29712 Monterey Bay Aquarium - 07 by Deirdre Saoirse Moen, on Flickr

    ...vs. my old 6MP Canon PowerShot 700 iS...

    View attachment 29713 Cuttlefish (at Monterey Bay Aquarium) by Deirdre Saoirse Moen, on Flickr

    Not that big a difference in MP, but humongous difference in picture performance. (Neither is retouched.)
  5. Karen Cole

    Karen Cole Regular

    Sep 2, 2010
    Los Angeles, CA
    I have the HTC Hero with a 5 megapixel phone. And it takes really good photo's, but what's the best thing about it is the android apps available to make it even better and more effective. From Vignette, Camera 360, Snap Photo Pro, Camera Magic, Camera Illusion and Retro Camera these apps and more add features and effects that make using a camera phone that much more fun.

    I have my eye on the HTC Evo at 8mp, but that's not its selling point to me..it's the bigger footprint..makes texting that much easier. LOL!
  6. Boyzo

    Boyzo Veteran

    Jul 14, 2010
    mmm Interesting (Another toy for me) now will there be a Red Dot version :wink: my chance for a Leica + phone ... with a Red Dot :dance4:
  7. Djarum

    Djarum All-Pro

    Jul 10, 2010
    Huntsville, AL
    I won't buy it unless its running Android 2.2.

    I hope Panny understands the can of worms its trying to open. I mean, my girlfriend works for a cell phone provider. The business of phones and service is downright cut throat right now.
  8. deirdre

    deirdre Top Veteran

    Sep 26, 2010
  9. intense

    intense Regular

    Sep 11, 2010
    That's good news. Several years ago I had Sony Ericsson W810i and I have to say it had an amazing camera. It was only 2 MP but I haven't seen better phone camera yet (including iPhone)
  10. Herman

    Herman The Image Stimulator

    Jul 11, 2010
    The Netherlands
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  11. Prototype

    Prototype Veteran

    Jul 9, 2010
    Looks like the site was just updated: LUMIX Phone


    My guess is that this won't be coming to the States. Nokia has had amazing cameras on its phones for some time now and they have trouble selling here. I don't think this Lumix phone has enough to take on the large-screen Android phones that is the trend right now.
  12. MarcusGR

    MarcusGR Rookie

    Sep 11, 2010
    It looks interesting indeed. But Altek might have done better since 2009 !!

    lumix phone.JPG

    Personally, I couldn't care less of "Apps" and smartphones: small screens are a nuisance, and when PC performance is needed, a tablet PC is the minimum I want.
    This one doesn't want to be a smarthpone, though, but rather a REAL camera (one able to shoot fast and in every light condition) attached to a reasonable phone, so that you have them 'both' in your pocket 24/7, properly charged.
    Full specifications are not yet available. On the lens there is written F: 1:2.8/4.5 (see picture), but - strangely enough - sources say there only is DIGITAL zoom !! Moreover, it appears to lack one crucial item for a pocket camera: lens protection. A HUGE fault. Strangely enough, Panasonic engineers do incredibly well at everything except designing adequate lens protection (the ridiculous lens cap appalling LX3 and LX5 provides further proof).

    P.S.: I have just "discovered" that Altek has been SELLING a VERY INTERESTING phone-camera since last year !! It's The Altek T8680 sporting a 3x optical zoom. Unfortunately, it's for sale in the Far East only, and I was not able to find any independent recension (nor sample images !!) anywhere in the network...!!

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  13. Djarum

    Djarum All-Pro

    Jul 10, 2010
    Huntsville, AL
    The only way that it will be successful in my opinion is if it is a smartphone. I'm still on the fence with smartphones, since I've only been using one for about 6 months. If the idea however is to combine two devices, then I think it has to be a smartphone, or people won't bite. In reality, it needs to be lots of devices to compete: camera, mp3 player, video, phone, text..etc. We will have to see I suppose. It is a step in the right direction.

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