Thanks, lightroom classic cc exported as a Tiff. Into Silver Efex pro 3. And that's where the magic happens with Monochrome files. I have 5 custom presets that I can choose from, And over 65 regular presets. And everything has a slider, Brightness has 3 sliders, contrast has 3 sliders. Clearview light option as well from dxo incorporated. Last but not least. Film grain can be chosen, and vignette/borders. You get the idea. Flavour to taste output = jpeg. And that's all she wrote. I need a better name than your sig to address you though lolz