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The A7CR is interesting. I tried the original A7C but the missing front dial was annoying as was the viewfinder. The A7C wasn’t a big enough size difference from my (at the time) A7Riv to justify taking it instead, especially considering the sensor size. Now that the front dial has been added, the viewfinder is maybe a little better, and of course the 61mp sensor now makes it more interesting. Reviews say the grip is also a bit bigger which would be good. The biggest issue I had was when using a lens with a larger flange, my fingers dI’d not have a lot of room. Sony makes great cameras with excellent AF and image quality but I just do not find them very enjoyable to shoot with. I much prefer my Olympus and Leica bodies and even the Ricoh GRIII. I may try a A7CR, but I am definitely not in a rush. In a month or 2 there will be some nice used ones over on FM or even B&H so who knows.
 
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I noticed the two new cameras yesterday. Interesting, but not sure whether I'll be updating my existing a7C. The front dial alone isn't worth the expense, so there must be something more. Maybe I'll drive to the nearest camera store once they get some of those and try them out. Apparently the viewfinder is now bigger, but not better in terms of resolution in either of them.

Then again, if I upgraded to the a7CR that might be enough to be my only camera. Now I have two bodies, the a7R III and the a7C, maybe those could be consolidated to a single camera now? Won't know without trying.

Glad they keep the pseudo-rangefinder line alive, anyhow. Especially since the only other option these days appears to be the Fuji X-E lineup.
 
Wow, didn't see that R coming. Pretty cool.
I'm actually getting along really well with my C. The CR is way out there for me. $$$
 
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I noticed the two new cameras yesterday. Interesting, but not sure whether I'll be updating my existing a7C. The front dial alone isn't worth the expense, so there must be something more. Maybe I'll drive to the nearest camera store once they get some of those and try them out. Apparently the viewfinder is now bigger, but not better in terms of resolution in either of them.

Then again, if I upgraded to the a7CR that might be enough to be my only camera. Now I have two bodies, the a7R III and the a7C, maybe those could be consolidated to a single camera now? Won't know without trying.

Glad they keep the pseudo-rangefinder line alive, anyhow. Especially since the only other option these days appears to be the Fuji X-E lineup.
The all new dedicated 'AI' focusing chip would be the big draw if MP aren't your need.

Interesting point about the R sensor: Performance when in crop mode is identical to the new A6700. 26MP and exactly the same DR. Plus, these cameras both shoot in lossless compressed RAW.

Larger grip, other than that the dimensions are the same as the A7c.

I think there's a lot there to like.
 
Chris Nichols and Jordan Drake do a show for PetaPixel. They have a funny segment about how Sony has a ridiculous number of models currently available:
You can jump right to that segment. There’s another guy on the show, but I can never remember his name. :unsure:
 
We were discussing this on another forum. Sony has a stupid amount of cameras still in production. The only reason they dropped the A7RII was the chip shortage. The fact that they still sell the A7II is kind of silly, but they put it on sale all the time with the kit lens for $998. If you want to woo someone to FF, that'd be the way. I reckon these two releases will lower prices on the older cameras. The A7R III is still a fine camera but probably overpriced at $2200 body only when you consider the current crop of features and AF. I wish they'd drop that sensor into an A7 IV body.
 
Now a couple of reviews later I'm actually a little bit interested in the a7C II. Having thought about it I might not want to replace the a7R III with a smaller high-res body, since even though the R III isn't that large itself, I still believe it balances better with lenses like the Sigma 100-400 than any a7C variant will.

But the C II might - depending on how much cash I'd have to shell in - make for a meaningful replacement for the original C I've used so extensively since I bought it. If I only judge by how many raw-files I have in my LR catalogue, there's no camera I've shot more with than my a7C. So the bigger viewfinder and overall improved ergonomics wouldn't go to waste.

I'll wait and see. And go have a look-see once they get the demo pieces in the stores. Much depends on how much cash would such an upgrade want.
 
I took a detour driving home from work yesterday, and drove to Hyvinkää to get a hands on with the a7C II. Not sure if it would be worth the upgrade for me. The viewfinder is indeed notably better than in the original, apparently the higher magnification alone is enough to make a difference, even if the resolution is exactly the same. The thing also seems a bit more responsive overall. Sadly they still kept a clicky shutter button, one of my dislikes with the original a7C.

I did ask for a swap offer. Also asked for the price if I went with a Nikon Zf instead. We'll see, I'll have to take the same trip once they get stock of the Zf to get my greasy fingers on that one too.

Currently feeling a bit meh about it all. Which is probably a good thing. Do I need a new camera? No. And if I don't even want one, that's all the better.
 
OK, so I got offered 1200€ for my a7C + 28-60 kit in exchange for the newer a7C II body only. Fuggetaboutit. Not enough improvement to warrant paying through the nose for. 1300€ for an extra dial and a slightly larger viewfinder is a bit too steep in my books. Yes, there is the jump from 24 to 33 mpix, which is pretty much naff all. Ain't nobody gonna see that in print.
 
OK, so I got offered 1200€ for my a7C + 28-60 kit in exchange for the newer a7C II body only. Fuggetaboutit. Not enough improvement to warrant paying through the nose for. 1300€ for an extra dial and a slightly larger viewfinder is a bit too steep in my books. Yes, there is the jump from 24 to 33 mpix, which is pretty much naff all. Ain't nobody gonna see that in print.
The A7CR would be the one I would consider because there is a significant jump to the 61mp sensor. I have toyed with selling my A1 because for reach I am very happy with my OM-1 but the A7CR would be nice for a small, AF body to be used mainly with primes and the under rated 28-60 kit lens. I have plenty of native FE Voigtlander lenses and then plenty of M mount lenses. Selling the A1 would cover the cost but I will probably wait to find a gently used one or maybe Sony will have a deal on new during the upcoming holiday season.
 
The A7CR would be the one I would consider because there is a significant jump to the 61mp sensor. I have toyed with selling my A1 because for reach I am very happy with my OM-1 but the A7CR would be nice for a small, AF body to be used mainly with primes and the under rated 28-60 kit lens. I have plenty of native FE Voigtlander lenses and then plenty of M mount lenses. Selling the A1 would cover the cost but I will probably wait to find a gently used one or maybe Sony will have a deal on new during the upcoming holiday season.
For most of what I do with the a7C I would not want the payload of a 61 megapixel sensor. My storage space is overused as it is having a 24mpix body for more casual stuff and a 42mpix one for the landscape stuff.

No doubt the new a7C models are both good cameras, and better than the previous one. But what betterment there is compared to the a7C does not currently warrant the cost of upgrade.
 
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