NEX Rumor: FF NEX

wt21

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Aug 15, 2010
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This could actually get me into NEX to stay! Though knowing Sony, they'll have only a slow kit zoom and a 24mm lens, and that's all, lol.

If this is true, and they have a fast 28 and 50 (of course, I know other folks want a 35), then I may finally be forced into NEX. Besides, I'm learning to put up with Sony from the wonderful RX100. I'd even take a 24-70 f/4 zoom.

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krugorg

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Sep 26, 2011
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Minnesota USA
Kyle Krug
That was a pretty dang interesting rumor... the more I read about it, the more it sounds like a full frame NEX body that has a hybrid mount to support both Alpha and E mount lenses (crop mode when an E lens is mounted). So, basically, a more streamlined mount, versus the current NEX-to-Alpha adapter, plus the sensor to actually be able to use full frame, but you still have a big FF DSLR lens on the front?
 

Luke

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Nov 11, 2011
214
Milwaukee, WI USA
Luke
Kyle, I hear you. But think about like this. Use your current NEX lens for zoom and a compact system, and put on a smallish fast FF prime for when ultimate quality and maximum DOF control is desired...the best of both worlds (kind of).
 

krugorg

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Sep 26, 2011
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Kyle Krug
Yeah, that makes sense, Luke, and I do still think it sounds interesting. I was just trying to make sense out of what could come to the market sooner rather than later and it seemed like a new FF mount from Sony was not as likely.

I guess the body would have to be bigger, for the mount and sensor, so maybe handling would work with some of the primes.
 

wt21

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Aug 15, 2010
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Could this be why the released very few NEX lenses (of any quality, at any rate). And I wonder if that 24mm would work on a FF body?
 

Booka

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Jul 5, 2011
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Sweden
The first really big news before photokina, after the rx100 and now this... Sony looks like they have started banging them out again and have recovered from the floods.

My biggest interest in this would be with focus peaking and M-lenses since sony hasn't really been spectacular with their lens designs.

My guess would be that it turns out to be a FF E-mount with an Alpha adapter for existing FF lenses, who knows what other tricks Sony have been able to design.

The biggest questions is how long this product is on the market before i can afford it/ I get tired of waiting for a Ricoh FF M-mount.
 

krugorg

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Sep 26, 2011
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Minnesota USA
Kyle Krug
Could this be why the released very few NEX lenses (of any quality, at any rate). And I wonder if that 24mm would work on a FF body?
That would be pretty great. It does seem like the current E lenses struggle a bit on the edges on APS-C, more so even on the higher mpx sensor. Also, the Sigma E lenses seem to perform as well as the Sony glass going into the corners/edges, and Sigma has explicitly stated that these are not designed to cover a FF sensor.

My biggest interest in this would be with focus peaking and M-lenses since sony hasn't really been spectacular with their lens designs.
This would have to be a huge hit, right? ... so much awesome M-lenses already out there, compact, and people seem to be doing well with focus peaking.
 

stanleyk

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May 23, 2011
103
Taylor, Texas
Great idea if they make the right lenses. Right now the NEX 7 is an moderately expensive body with a very bad selection of lenses. I used one with the 24mm one time. I thought the Fuji X100 was just a much better camera especially in terms of IQ. The 24mm is really overpriced at $1,000+ for what it delivers. It's nowhere near as good as the Nikon 35mm F1.4. Sony does have some good FF lenses but they would be awfully big on NEX size body. Maybe it's going be larger? I think the lens a lot of FF users want it is a 24-70 F2.8. I have a Nikon one and it's very big and heavy. I sold my Nikon FF body earlier this year. I'm keeping some of the lenses for a while to see if I can get a D800 at some point. For some reason Sony just doesn't seem to get the lens part of cameras. The NEX is a pretty great camera with a horrible selection of lenses. I guess you can adapt lenses but then you lose the auto focus.
 

krugorg

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Sep 26, 2011
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Minnesota USA
Kyle Krug
The one native/AF prime that always seems to be fairly small for FF is the 50mm. Something like the size of the Nikon 50/1.8 G would work pretty well on a X-Pro1 sized body, I would think? But... then yeah, if you look at the wide angles or long primes, they start getting pretty large.

As far as existing NEX APS-C lenses, I do like the Sigma 19mm for a wide angle and then the 50/1.8 looks pretty good as well.
 

Pelao

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Jul 11, 2010
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Ontario, Canada
Stephen
Could be nice. It all depends of course on the implementation. If the lenses aren't good enough, or there aren't enough of them, it will weaken the offering in terms of reaching a broad audience.

If it comes true, I look forward to seeing what they deliver.
 

lenshoarder

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Mar 7, 2012
43
Could be nice. It all depends of course on the implementation. If the lenses aren't good enough, or there aren't enough of them, it will weaken the offering in terms of reaching a broad audience.

If it comes true, I look forward to seeing what they deliver.
I think that lenses are besides the point. As long as people can use legacy glass with it, then people will scoop it up. FF has never been about a broad audience. As long as the price isn't too ridiculous, it'll do well.
 

Pelao

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Jul 11, 2010
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Ontario, Canada
Stephen
I think that lenses are besides the point. As long as people can use legacy glass with it, then people will scoop it up. FF has never been about a broad audience. As long as the price isn't too ridiculous, it'll do well.
We'll have to agree to disagree about whether or not FF is for a broad audience. The 5D and following cameras from Nikon and Sony made larger sensor cameras, and a good range of lenses, available to a much broader audience. Sony would surely be targeting a chunk of those people, hoping to attract them with the perceived advantages of FF in a small, lightweight body. Users of legacy glass are a significant subset, with likely a piece of crossover. But if users of legacy glass are the primary market for this, then it is an unusual move for Sony, because it's not a large-scale market, and offers less opportunity to sell lenses, where margins and brand loyalty are built.
 

Luckypenguin

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Dec 24, 2010
123
Brisbane, Australia
Nic
Formula for a system camera:

1) Design camera
2) Design lenses for said camera
3) Release both at the same time
4) Repeat steps 1) & 2)

It's very hard to imagine a camera being genuinely successful whilst ignoring steps 2) through 4). I wish that I was that easily pleased. For me it's native lenses or bust. I thought adapting was fun a year or two back when it was with an E-P1 worth a couple of hundred bucks.
 

Andrewteee

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Jul 8, 2010
123
I heard that it would be a medium format sensor with 48 MPs. And they are also rumored to release a 80/1.2 too. All in a body just slightly larger than the size of the RX100. Sweet, we'll take better pictures now.
 

KianO

Top Veteran
Jun 27, 2012
103
Geneva
If all this true and that there is a couple of good lenses that comme out, they be in the same Nice lightweight magnésium allow than those of the aps-c lineup :)
 

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