News / Rumor Not just 1, but 3 Sony E-Mount FF cameras coming.

wt21

Hall of Famer
Aug 15, 2010
A year ago, I would have said "yes" to a Sony FF. Now, I'm not so sure. A FF sensor doesn't address their color or jpg quality. I think if I made a buy, it'll be for a Fuji XM1 used. The Fuji colors are just great. Having said that, I've never used a FF Sony, so maybe I'd be real surprised.
 

Ray Sachs

Legend
Sep 21, 2010
Not too far from Philly
you should be able to figure it out...
A year ago, I would have said "yes" to a Sony FF. Now, I'm not so sure. A FF sensor doesn't address their color or jpg quality. I think if I made a buy, it'll be for a Fuji XM1 used. The Fuji colors are just great. Having said that, I've never used a FF Sony, so maybe I'd be real surprised.
I suspect if you don't like the RX1, you wouldn't like the FF Nex any more. I personally LOVE the RX1, although I've never shot jpegs with it. Its raw files are sublime. I'd guess the Nex full frame sensor will be as good or perhaps evolutionarily better, but I have trouble imagining the lenses being as good as the RX1, given how it was designed specifically for it. I'll have a look at the FF Nex, but if the interface and feature set are consistent with existing Nex, I don't see myself buying in. If they ever do an RX1 with a 24-28mm lens, I'm all over it, but I don't see that happening. I might be pretty close to the whole market for that.

-Ray
 

stratokaster

Top Veteran
Dec 27, 2010
Kiev, Ukraine
Pavel
Given the time it took Sony to build a modest lineup of mostly average lenses for their APS-C NEX cameras, I wonder how long those FF NEXes will remain optically challenged.
 

wt21

Hall of Famer
Aug 15, 2010
Given the time it took Sony to build a modest lineup of mostly average lenses for their APS-C NEX cameras, I wonder how long those FF NEXes will remain optically challenged.
I do wonder, though, if NEX (edit: I meant Sony) was waiting for their FF, so they weren't putting too much into the crop camera, until they see which does better.
 

wolfie

Veteran
Sep 19, 2010
FF compact glass

I do wonder, though, if NEX was waiting for their FF, so they weren't putting too much into the crop camera, until they see which does better.
Wonder if the guys at Olympus will be helping design the Sony FF glass, in which case something special could result ...:biggrin:
 

Livnius

Top Veteran
Jun 3, 2012
Melbourne. Australia
Joe
Wonder if the guys at Olympus will be helping design the Sony FF glass, in which case something special could result ...:biggrin:
It may not be lenses that Olympus helps with but apparently with IBIS !!

From what I've read 4 FF lenses will be released in very quick succession and 2 of those will be fast Zeiss primes....a 55m/1.8 and an 85mm/1.4....the other 2 will be zooms.
With sales still strong on the RX1 I'm not surprised to see a 'nifty fifty' and a traditional portrait length lens amongst the first due for release....but then again, there is quite a bit of talk about a pancake 35/f2.8....and thats precisely it, for now it's all talk and speculation.
I'm one of the few who is actually likes the idea that a fast 50 may be amongst the first lenses of this new system.
 

lenshoarder

Veteran
Mar 7, 2012
isnt one of the great things about the mirrorless class of cams that you can buy a twenty dollar adapter and use whatever glass you want?!
It is. Combine that with the other development that makes old MF glass into "native" glass and a FF NEX with the AF sensor would have hundreds of cheap "native" AF glass to choose from.
 

Biro

Hall of Famer
Aug 7, 2011
Jersey Shore
Steve
O Pentax, Where Art Thou? All that delicious legacy glass...
I've been hoping that under Ricoh's ownership, Pentax would become an early leader in large-sensor mirrorless cameras. I still think Pentax will offer great, state of the art cameras going forward. But it's clearly taking time to get the consolidation of the two firms completed. I fear (and as a Pentaxian, I hope that I am wrong) that Pentax's great mirrorless cameras will end up being afterthoughts in an already-crowded market.
 

Yeats

All-Pro
Jul 31, 2012
New Jersey, USA
Chris
isnt one of the great things about the mirrorless class of cams that you can buy a twenty dollar adapter and use whatever glass you want?!
It would be... except the m43 crew makes the effective FOV too long for my use on wide & normal lenses, and none of the mirrorless APS folks, outside of Pentax, have IBIS. :frown:
 

Yeats

All-Pro
Jul 31, 2012
New Jersey, USA
Chris
I've been hoping that under Ricoh's ownership, Pentax would become an early leader in large-sensor mirrorless cameras. I still think Pentax will offer great, state of the art cameras going forward. But it's clearly taking time to get the consolidation of the two firms completed. I fear (and as a Pentaxian, I hope that I am wrong) that Pentax's great mirrorless cameras will end up being afterthoughts in an already-crowded market.
Yeah, there does seem to be more inertia than I had hoped for since Ricoh bought them... combine that with the lens price hikes and I'm not a particularly happy camper as far as my future Pentaxness goes.

OTOH, I actually am pretty satisfied with my current kit, and also satisfied with APS-C.
 

Yeats

All-Pro
Jul 31, 2012
New Jersey, USA
Chris
It is. Combine that with the other development that makes old MF glass into "native" glass and a FF NEX with the AF sensor would have hundreds of cheap "native" AF glass to choose from.
But no stabilization, and that's something I take hearty advantage of. Even though, IMO, Pentax's IBIS is not as good as any of the other camera mfr's, it's still quite a selling point - the only APS-C camera that provides stabilization for all lenses.
 

lenshoarder

Veteran
Mar 7, 2012
But no stabilization, and that's something I take hearty advantage of. Even though, IMO, Pentax's IBIS is not as good as any of the other camera mfr's, it's still quite a selling point - the only APS-C camera that provides stabilization for all lenses.
Use a fast enough lens and you won't need IBIS. ;)

As for Pentax being the only mfr with an APS-C camera that stabilizes for all lenses. You are forgetting about the company that came out with IBIS before Pentax. That company is Sony. The A100 beat out the K100d by a few months. It worked with all lenses. Sony IBIS still does. Back in 2006 Sony SteadyShot was considered better than Pentax SR by many people. Comparing their 2013 versions, many people are still of the same opinion.
 

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