Pentax Pentax Finally Updating More FF Lenses... Maybe?

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Could be interesting to see what comes of these... especially if the "classic" version is true, and, if so, I'm wondering what it could be like? Pentax hasn't put out vintage-inspired lenses at all, save for retaining the old-timey style of the Limited series when they put out the HD versions. And, I guess you could call the D FA 21mm f2.4 Limited somewhat "classic" although it straddles the line between vintage and modern.

Something other than weird 90s design cues?
 

Could be interesting to see what comes of these... especially if the "classic" version is true, and, if so, I'm wondering what it could be like? Pentax hasn't put out vintage-inspired lenses at all, save for retaining the old-timey style of the Limited series when they put out the HD versions. And, I guess you could call the D FA 21mm f2.4 Limited somewhat "classic" although it straddles the line between vintage and modern.

Something other than weird 90s design cues?
They didn't get on with it after announcing the K1 release which is a shame. I was intending to get the K1 years ago but veered towards Nikon specifically due to past and current lens choices/ availability. Good to see Pentax increasing the lens choices now.
 
Especially in the fast fifty department, since the only one they currently offer (aside from the ancient FA model which is or was still being produced) for FF is a massive weather-sealed, and expensive, beast which somewhat flies in the face of the tradition of compact and simple fast fifties.
 
I think some of the companies have chased "perfection" as much as possible, which is why we have these large, heavy, expensive "normal" lenses (modern fast 35s/ 50s/ 85s/ etc...). Some want that perfection, others want more normally-sized lenses. I much prefer lenses such as the Limiteds to the modern monstrosity, even with the Limiteds' flaws.

Now, something like a 200/2 is going to be large, heavy, and expensive. Physics and optics drive the design. Those lenses tend to be excellent performers but more of a specialist/ niche product.

Curious to see what they actually release.
 
One the of the reasons I went to a K1 was the green button and focus confirmation beep on legacy glass.
I use and love it for the M-series, but thought it didn't function the same way with m42... due to some places saying you MUST stop down the lens to meter. But of course, that's what the camera does when you press the green button in Manual.
 

The $349 price is good if it's true, but when I convert using Google I get $400... Maybe taxes are higher for Japanese MSRP? I definitely don't get the "classic" version being more expensive.
 
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I do want one of those, you know I think I was operating under the misconception that m42 lenses didn't work with Pentax green button stop-down metering, but I've just seen info that contradicts that.
The 50mm eight-element Super-Takumar is just out of this world. I was able to try one on my brother's K-1 and it's a dream wide-open. The reviewers are not lying.

As long as a Pentax body has a Green Button, stop-down metering is possible with M42 lenses. I use my M42 lenses in Manual and it still zeroes in the exposure after every press. There isn't that aperture sound, though, just like when using manual K-Mount lenses. The M42 lens must have a Manual mode for stopping-down where the OVF will dim-out accordingly.

M42 lenses can be conveniently used with Av, too, that's why they're popular.

Many K-1 owners exclusively use their cameras for M42 lenses, which have the same 45.46mm flange-back distance as the K-Mount. In that case, the adapter is just actually a converter as it stays on the K-Mount when installed.

One the of the reasons I went to a K1 was the green button and focus confirmation beep on legacy glass.
That's how it is with Pentax dSLRs. The K-1s and K-3 III have that focus confirmation light on the whole OVF, whereas with older ones, just like my K-3, there is just the AF point lighting up in the middle. There is the confirmation beep, too.

Catch-In focus is a handy feature for fully-manual lenses, M42 and PK-M, as well. After pressing the Green Button, one can just hold the shutter button even before focusing and the shutter releases as soon as the subject is in focus in the centre AF point. For Catch-In focus to work on modern lenses, the lens must have an AF and Manual button because the bodies use the AF module. Pretty handy.

The Green Button is also very convenient for lenses after PK-A, or when the aperture can be controlled in the body. With other cameras, one must adjust the exposure triangle without shortcuts to zero-in the exposure or at least to adjust it. With the Green Button, even if the light meter shows that the current exposure is 4EV stops overexposed, as soon as the button is pressed, it will just zero-in at 0.0EV. It makes manual exposure lovely and convenient.

The Green Button has more features than that but my favourite is when I use manual lenses and manual exposure.
 

 
Couple of things: they are the exact same lens design, same aperture (rounded from f1.4-2.8, so I guess some angular aperture edges show up after that), just different coatings and slightly different bodies. The slightly higher cost for the "classic" model is due to coming with an ND filter in the box. Kind of a nice touch actually. I was all set to get a little irked with Pentax for charging more for a lens with "inferior" coatings, but I'll accept this. Neither comes with hood, unfortunately. I think I officially want the HD version. It'd go nicely with my HD FA 35mm f2.
 
Couple of things: they are the exact same lens design, same aperture (rounded from f1.4-2.8, so I guess some angular aperture edges show up after that), just different coatings and slightly different bodies. The slightly higher cost for the "classic" model is due to coming with an ND filter in the box. Kind of a nice touch actually. I was all set to get a little irked with Pentax for charging more for a lens with "inferior" coatings, but I'll accept this. Neither comes with hood, unfortunately. I think I officially want the HD version. It'd go nicely with my HD FA 35mm f2.
So is that "old time lens" really an old time lens? Specifically, I'm wondering whether it'll render more classically or dare I say even better than, say, a Pentacon 50mm F1.8 I got for twenty pounds a few weeks ago. I find it interesting because I think Voigtlander released a similarly billed 35mm lens which as it turned out, actually rendered quite modern (albeit they got it right with their 50mm lens).
 
So is that "old time lens" really an old time lens? Specifically, I'm wondering whether it'll render more classically or dare I say even better than, say, a Pentacon 50mm F1.8 I got for twenty pounds a few weeks ago. I find it interesting because I think Voigtlander released a similarly billed 35mm lens which as it turned out, actually rendered quite modern (albeit they got it right with their 50mm lens).
According to Pentax, the FA 50mm F1.4 Classic has been tweaked to specifically give the lens that enhanced "rainbow flare" from 50 years ago. I can get some rainbow flare in some lenses but it seems that the new version has a more pronounced rainbow. The included ND filter is to aid in the extraction of the rainbow-effect/flare, according to them. That flare is designed to show on FF sensors only. The photos below are from Pentax itself:
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Ghosting and flare have been reduced while retaining the essential characteristic flares to be able to produce the rainbow effect. I think that's rather smart. The older FA F1.4 has more ghosting, so this "classic" one is still modern by smc standards.

I can feel some sort of a Takumar-ness in some of the colours - more neutral/muted/more like SATOBI. I can see some of the colours in my Super-Takumar images when the Natural custom profile is selected.
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I can see now why the Classic is more expensive.
 
According to Pentax, the FA 50mm F1.4 Classic has been tweaked to specifically give the lens that enhanced "rainbow flare" from 50 years ago. I can get some rainbow flare in some lenses but it seems that the new version has a more pronounced rainbow. The included ND filter is to aid in the extraction of the rainbow-effect/flare, according to them. That flare is designed to show on FF sensors only. The photos below are from Pentax itself:
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Ghosting and flare have been reduced while retaining the essential characteristic flares to be able to produce the rainbow effect. I think that's rather smart. The older FA F1.4 has more ghosting, so this "classic" one is still modern by smc standards.

I can feel some sort of a Takumar-ness in some of the colours - more neutral/muted/more like SATOBI. I can see some of the colours in my Super-Takumar images when the Natural custom profile is selected.
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I can see now why the Classic is more expensive.
Mmm, very interesting (thanks).
 
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