Sony RX100 II review

lenshoarder

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Personally I don't think it's worth changing an RX100 for one of those, what you all reckon?

Depends on the price. For the price I got my RX100 for, no. If I was in the market and the RX100 is $650 and the RX100M2 is $750, it's a no brainer to pay an extra $100 fo the M2.

As predicted, the new sensor is twice as sensitive as the old.

"Sony's claims of a full 1-stop improvement in high-ISO noise seems well-justified by our own experience - the difference between the new and old models is pretty dramatic."

Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 II Camera - Hands-On Preview
 

wolfie

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RX 100 II withoptional EVF

Because a real serious compact should have some sort of VF ...:biggrin:

sony-rx100-II-electronic-viewfinder.jpg


Frankly I was hoping for the same sensor with a more versatile lens (with a range like the G15) in a slightly bigger body.
 

retow

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Tiltable screen plus the same EVF as the RX1 plus better high iso, a significant improvement of an already class leading product. And still significantly cheaper than the "Leica" D-Lux6. Competition must sweat. A true alternative to the lower end mft cameras. If the next generation includes a faster lens at the log end (f2.8 please) updating will be difficult to resist.
 

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For me, the revised sensor is the only thing which sells the new model over the old. I think the tilting screen is a handy feature, but it makes the camera slightly more bulky and the extremely compact design of the RX100 was one of its main strengths. The hotshoe isn't of interest, and again makes the camera slightly larger.

What I was hoping for in the new model was a brighter lens (at the long end), and another control dial or two. The new sensor would be nice to have, but it's not as if the sensor on the original RX100 was seen as deficient. Quite the opposite actually.

So I'm holding out for a reduced price on the old model. It's down to about £430 in the UK now, which is already pretty good.

-R
 

lenshoarder

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For me, the revised sensor is the only thing which sells the new model over the old. I think the tilting screen is a handy feature, but it makes the camera slightly more bulky and the extremely compact design of the RX100 was one of its main strengths. The hotshoe isn't of interest, and again makes the camera slightly larger.

What I was hoping for in the new model was a brighter lens (at the long end), and another control dial or two. The new sensor would be nice to have, but it's not as if the sensor on the original RX100 was seen as deficient. Quite the opposite actually.

So I'm holding out for a reduced price on the old model. It's down to about £430 in the UK now, which is already pretty good.

-R

I think the desire for for a small body and a brighter lens are mutually exclusive. The tilt LCD only makes the body 2.4mm thicker, if that makes it too big.. I don't think Sony will be able to make the lens brighter yet keep the same body size.
 

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I think that's true, and actually I would have been happy with a slightly larger body and a brighter lens. But you can't please everyone.

What Sony has done with the revised RX100 will suit a lot of people, but I think I'm better off with the original model (financially if nothing else)

-R
 

Stan

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Mk. II looks like a winner. Plus you can attach accessories, which can make it a great travel kit.

Is it still limited in video mode to 29:59 length clips?
 

Phil

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Tiltable screen plus the same EVF as the RX1 plus better high iso, a significant improvement of an already class leading product. And still significantly cheaper than the "Leica" D-Lux6. Competition must sweat. A true alternative to the lower end mft cameras. If the next generation includes a faster lens at the log end (f2.8 please) updating will be difficult to resist.

I agree, faster long end would be great, I think the EVF is too expensive and I can live without the tiltable screen.
 

Phil

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Mk. II looks like a winner. Plus you can attach accessories, which can make it a great travel kit.

Is it still limited in video mode to 29:59 length clips?

I'm not sure but I would think so. I read somewhere that if a device can record 30mins then it is classed as a camcorder and camcorders carry higher tax rates in some countries than a stills camera so they limit still cameras with video capability to 29:59 to keep the cost down.

P
 

Phil

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For me, the revised sensor is the only thing which sells the new model over the old. I think the tilting screen is a handy feature, but it makes the camera slightly more bulky and the extremely compact design of the RX100 was one of its main strengths. The hotshoe isn't of interest, and again makes the camera slightly larger.

What I was hoping for in the new model was a brighter lens (at the long end), and another control dial or two. The new sensor would be nice to have, but it's not as if the sensor on the original RX100 was seen as deficient. Quite the opposite actually.

So I'm holding out for a reduced price on the old model. It's down to about £430 in the UK now, which is already pretty good.

-R

Got mine from procamerashop.co.uk for £379 including delivery, MIJ version.

P
 

Stan

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I'm not sure but I would think so. I read somewhere that if a device can record 30mins then it is classed as a camcorder and camcorders carry higher tax rates in some countries than a stills camera so they limit still cameras with video capability to 29:59 to keep the cost down.

P

I assume what you say is likely the case. The Panny G6 and GH3 are bucking the trend, providing a glimmer of hope, not that Sony will play along necessarily.
 

Stan

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Looking at the low iso samples from Imaging Resource the mk1 looks alot better than the mk2.
Might be a bad test, but I certainly wouldn't want to give up low ISO quality for an extra stop of high ISO.

Mk1 - http://216.18.212.226/PRODS/sony-rx100/FULLRES/RX100hSLI0080NR2D.JPG
Mk2 - http://216.18.212.226/PRODS/sony-rx100-ii/FULLRES/RX100IIhSLI00100NR2D.JPG

Good find! I believe in their video preview they mention that default jpeg processing is milder. I am assuming the samples are OOC jpegs. Not that this settles things, but we'll have to wait for RAW processing using the usual suspects for a definitive answer.
 

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