The Apple Watch - wow

john m flores

All-Pro
Aug 13, 2012
Ah well, nothing new here. Apple's products have often managed to evoke an irrational emotional response. Hence the whole "religion" meme. But I have yet to see anyone posting messages in photography forums about how offended they are re: the cost of Burberry raincoats, or Louis Vuitton handbags, or, yes, Rolex watches.

I have little interest in buying the Apple Watch right now because its cost is higher than its utility (for me), no different than a Mercedes Benz automobile. But I take no offense in their pricing structure. Clearly, when the entire initial production run of more than a million Apple Watches sells out within minutes of its release, the pricing structure is well within customer expectations. Had they been able to produce ten million, it's a good bet that the watch would still be on backorder today. Charging what the market will bear is the basis for a stable economy going back a long, long time.
I suspect the early sales success is due to the hardcore Apple fans that you described, and much of the buzz is about which Watch and which band, not the actual utility of the Watch. Whether or not that success translates to the general public, I'm not sure. Most of the most loyal Apple folks that I know are surprisingly lukewarm to it, and I think that's a reflection of the public's cool reception to smartwatches in general.


Here's the question that I asked on Reddit:

In 2001, the iPod changed the way we listen to music.
In 2007, the iPhone changed the way we access the Internet.
In 2015, the Watch changed _______?


Right now, the only answer is "how often we take our phones out of our pocket." That, frankly, is not enough.
 
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dalethorn

Guest
Sorry Dale, that's just not true. But don't take my word for it. Here's a link to the Apple Store web site, where you will be able to compare the prices, and see that the stainless Apple Watch with the sports band is exactly $200 more than the same size aluminum Apple Watch.
You completely ignored what I said in your "that's not true". The stainless steel watch and band, which in any other brand would be $50-$100 over the base metal and fabric/leather band, is $650 to $750 at Apple. The sports band argument is fallacious based on my report. I think someone here is really exerting a lot of effort to cover for Apple's extreme greed.
 
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dalethorn

Guest
Here's the question that I asked on Reddit: In 2001, the iPod changed the way we listen to music. In 2007, the iPhone changed the way we access the Internet. In 2015, the Watch changed _______? Right now, the only answer is "how often we take our phones out of our pocket." That, frankly, is not enough.
Here's my take, as a portable music lover since 1967: MP3 players with *removable* media were well-established before Apple started buying up thousands of billboards across the U.S. to push them. To me, the iPhone's real success (ditto the iPod Touch) was the apps, of which the generally excellent browser was just one. The watch has very serious potential - just watch (heh) users dragging their iphones out of pockets and bags, making calls or texting inadvisedly, and there you have a great utility device - right there on your wrist.
 
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dalethorn

Guest
I don't want to get into any sort of pissing contest with you here, Dale. But I most certainly did not ignore what you said. I was responding to your exact words. Here's a direct quote from your post above:

"I was offended by the notion of paying $700 extra just to get a stainless steel case."

The only way to arrive at that $700 number is if you compare the least expensive aluminum watch against the most expensive stainless watch of the same size. So you're obviously not talking about "just a stainless steel case."
Well, pissing contest is exactly what you are trying to create by not reading my obvious intent, and nitpicking instead. Now that's known in courts as the Reasonable Man argument.
 

pdh

Legend
Jan 2, 2011
A pc is much more user friendly and efficient for thread closing.
If you close a thread using an apple, it'll just crash and remove several thousand dollars from your bank account.
 

john m flores

All-Pro
Aug 13, 2012
One unexpected feature from my Sony Smartwatch 3 - when I activated my phone's camera, the watch vibrated and a shutter button appeared! Imagine if a smartwatch and a smart camera could talk...oh the stories they would tell!
 

pdh

Legend
Jan 2, 2011
So ... You've got the watch with a shutter button on it. ... And the phone in the other hand ... How do you hit the shutter button?

Nose?
Tongue ?
Um ... Something else?
 

john m flores

All-Pro
Aug 13, 2012
So ... You've got the watch with a shutter button on it. ... And the phone in the other hand ... How do you hit the shutter button?

Nose?
Tongue ?
Um ... Something else?
LOL! I'm not telling!

Seriously, it's kind of hard to compose a nice selfie with a friend and press the shutter button on the phone. So with two people or more, one can hold the phone while the other taps the shutter on the watch.

john, professional selfie artist.
 

Armanius

Bring Jack back!
Jan 11, 2011
Houston, Texas
Jack
I've been using a Pebble (original) for 5 months now. Paid $50 for it (Target open box). The battery life of 3-4 days is already bad enough. A battery life of 18 hours for the Apple Watch is ridiculous. Primary reason I like a smart watch is indeed so that I don't have to pull the phone out of my pocket. On the other hand, it gets annoying when my wrist is constantly buzzing about 100-150 times per day with notifications. So I turn the notifications off while I'm in the office. But then I forget to turn it back on when it is more convenient to have it on. I don't mind paying up to $1000 for a nice watch (although I've never paid more than $200 for one). But an Apple Watch will be obsolete in one year. Even if I decide to keep on using it, at some point, it won't be compatible with the newest iPhone. In my opinion, a $1000 watch should last for a lifetime. Looking forward to a Seiko Kinetic smart watch.
 

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