Canon Showcase The EOS M50 image thread

jyc860923

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I realised there isn't an image thread for the EOS M50, so instead of limiting the subject to the 32 1.4 lens, we shall welcome all photos shot with the EOS M50 in this thread. Please start posting.

I've made my switch from Fuji X to EOS M this month, and knowing Canon hasn't been everyone's favourite lately, I think there's something Canon's doing right, like the 32mm 1.4 lens. Some people say this lens is almost like an apology Canon makes to its EF-M users, and to that I say: "apology accepted". Although this isn't a cheap lens, it's worth the money and honestly I think people need to realise that with FF or APS-C, good lenses cost more to make, and if there are more excellent lenses made for APS-C then fewer will feel the need to switch to FF.

I'll start with this photo that I already posted to the dogs thread, hoping we'll see more of them soon.

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I guess it's getting safer now, to say that you might think Canon is OK? Thanks for posting. I love the idea of this lens. Add it to the 22 for two outstanding primes.
 

jyc860923

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The tonality pleases my senses very much.
The lens looks like a stellar performer 👍
I guess it's getting safer now, to say that you might think Canon is OK? Thanks for posting. I love the idea of this lens. Add it to the 22 for two outstanding primes.
I've been thinking about writing something about the switch to Canon, what I find, likes and dislikes, compared to Fuji, there can be a lot to say about it but it's not unlike the reviews that's all over the internet. The EOS M50 is an entry level camera and I never expected to have everything; the AF is not what I imagined for DPAF but whenever I buy a camera that claims to have the world's best AF, they are almost always equally disappointing. The AF speed of the lens, the computing power of the body, the operation and algorithm all play a part, I wouldn't recommend this camera if you want the best AF for stills. It lacks precision when you're trying to focus on small things, small AF box doesn't work well with DPAF, the touch to focus isn't precise sometimes, but in the other two AF area modes the camera is actually often smart enough to pick the right subject. So overall the AF system though behaving differently and not providing much customisation, is about as good as mainstream mirrorless cameras, this opinion is based on my experience of using m43 for 6 years and Fuji for 1 year.

Image quality of the raw files is surprisingly similar to my Fuji X-E3's. I used both CaptureOne Express for Fujifilm and Iridient X-Transformer/Lightroom for Fuji raw file processing and now I'm using LR/PS for the Canon CR3 files. If you just open the raw files to compare them side by side you would disagree with me, but know this, the Fuji always uses 1.5 stops higher ISO at the same aperture and shutter speed than the Canon, I wouldn't call it "ISO cheat" because sensitivity definitions and tone curves differ between brands. The actual differences are, Canon doesn't embed lens corrections into raw files and you have to rely on the developer software for that; the sensor in the EOS M50 isn't ISO-invariant so pulling up the shadows will cause more visible noise; and for JPG Canon doesn't suppress colour noise separately from the NR settings, which you never see in Fuji JPGs.

Now onto what really matters, the lenses. For AF, the USM lenses are faster than the STM lenses though not as smooth. For image quality, I find that Fuji offers better lenses for APS-C than Canon, but depends on what you need you may find it otherwise. For me, the 32 1.4 lens is clearly better than the Fuji 35 1.4 and 35 2 in terms of AF and image quality, and I probably will add a 22 2 in the future, I enjoyed using the Fuji 23 2 but hate it for its close-up image quality.

In the end, I'm still not sure if I've made the right choice, there are finer things I like about Fuji and Canon which can make this post really long and that I'm not going to write about. Final point, if you work with TTL flash, choose Canon.
 
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drd1135

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I really liked my original M with the 22 once they "fixed" the AF with a FW upgrade. Small and really workable RAW files. My problem was it always seemed that Canon wasn't taking this system seriously. I like your idea of the 32 being an apology. If Canon had really given it a good effort this system could have easily been competitive with the Sony 6000 series for APS-C digital. To me, the Fujis are just a different beast.
 

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I really liked my original M with the 22 once they "fixed" the AF with a FW upgrade. Small and really workable RAW files. My problem was it always seemed that Canon wasn't taking this system seriously. I like your idea of the 32 being an apology. If Canon had really given it a good effort this system could have easily been competitive with the Sony 6000 series for APS-C digital. To me, the Fujis are just a different beast.
It seems like Canon is positioning this M line at point and shoot market while giving it the ability to adapt, to go big if required. I like that Canon didn't make too many promises to keep and sold it cheaply, the functions and handling are just about enough.

One thing I should mention is that after trying the Canon EF24-70 2.8 II, EFM32 1.4, EFM15-45, EFS15-85 and the Tamron EF 90 2.8 F017 lenses on this camera, Canon lenses still focus MUCH BETTER than the Tamron although the F017 is a new design with USD motor.
 

Kevin

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It seems like Canon is positioning this M line at point and shoot market while giving it the ability to adapt, to go big if required. I like that Canon didn't make too many promises to keep and sold it cheaply, the functions and handling are just about enough.
Where do you think Canon is going to go with Rebel series? Between the EOS RP, the M series, and the Rebel series, the targeted demographic of buyers is perhaps overlapping a bit too much.
 

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Where do you think Canon is going to go with Rebel series? Between the EOS RP, the M series, and the Rebel series, the targeted demographic of buyers is perhaps overlapping a bit too much.
They certainly have a lot of room to shrink product lines, even without the EOS M there are the 4000D with 18MP sensor and a plastic mount, why that thing (was released in 2018) even exists is beyond me. I think Canon always knew where it was going and that's why they never had a problem making money. The EOS M mount is larger then the Sony FE/E mount so it's not that Canon couldn't make a FF mirrorless before, they had to develop the RF mount because in the high end market there can't be any compromise. Only one thing IMO the M mount fails to do is to seduce people to buy into FF RF system because it's not compatible, except with EF lenses. So for many reasons including the cinema camera product line, EF isn't dying any time soon, and that gives Canon a lot of flexibility where it can go.

The RP is a smart move, until the DPAF is backed with enough computing power to rival the single digit series, Canon isn't going to dethrone their DSLRs and the only thing to do with RF system to seize market share and make money. There are already rumours saying Canon's making an APS-C DSLR to replace both the 7D2 and 80D, which makes sense and they are already long overdue; Canon also needs lower models in the xxxD line although I think the 200D/800D is still good for another year or two; the xxxxD line should be abandoned; the EOS M has had a bigger demand than supply for a long time, Canon's keeping the M users hungry and they'll buy whatever "apology" Canon sells. So all of their product lines seem safe until the RF mount system matures, Canon will need to provide an answer to APS-C requests, and the boring/correct way to do that is to migrate the EF/EFS strategy onto RF mount.

I'd say Canon might kill the M line, but they might as well keep it as it's making money which Canon's better at than making cameras. The M line isn't just another interchangeable lens system, it's also an advanced compact product line, which is a short supply these days.

PS: Sorry I didn't answer your question about Rebel series, till this day I still can't do the xD/Rebel/Kiss conversion so I just look at them as a whole.
 
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Kevin

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It's about right considering the new announcements from Canon and Sony, if I may ask what system(s) are you shooting Kevin?
Just my Canon EOS 77D / 9000D / 770D but playing with a smaller mirrorless body has me curious. Spec wise I think the 77D & M50 are too close together for me to justify adding one to the collection, especially since I don't record video so the 4K on the M50 is something I'd likely never use, but the thought of carrying around the smaller body really has my attention. Now if I come across a deal that's too good to pass up..... :D
 

jyc860923

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Just my Canon EOS 77D / 9000D / 770D but playing with a smaller mirrorless body has me curious. Spec wise I think the 77D & M50 are too close together for me to justify adding one to the collection, especially since I don't record video so the 4K on the M50 is something I'd likely never use, but the thought of carrying around the smaller body really has my attention. Now if I come across a deal that's too good to pass up..... :D
Normally I'd suggest wait a little, especially when new models are around the corner, added with the fact that M50 isn't totally satisfactory either, but it seems you're already late to the mirrorless party and it'll be nice to have your photos in this thread.

Having used m43 and Fuji in the past, I do think my switch to Canon was the right choice, every system has hidden gotchas that no reviews talk about with Canon being the exception.
 

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