The Epson FF-680W, a first impression

JensM

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I have been somewhat struggling with the getting the family archive digitalised since I bought the Oly 60 mm Macro lens in 2016, with a few add-ons to get cracking on a task which has seen like a proper Sisyphus task.

The family archives spans photos covering 110, 126, 35, 120 and Polaroid film formats and is a proper mix of paper copies, slides and negatives with a few un-processed rolls of films, starting with a 120 Ilford FP3 from somewhere in the 50s and running up to about 2005.

Where to start at that Mountain, with a camera and a lens "optimised" towards shooting 35 mm slides and negatives?

Turns out that the problem was solved by throwing money at it...

A forthnight ago, I stumbled over a video from the creator 1 Month 2 Cameras on youtube, touting the Epson FF-680W, a scanner I was unaware of, so a bit of further browsing and then Keith Cooper released a video of the same machine.

So I bought one:
Epson FF-680W.jpg

This thing is a proper gamechanger. I got it delivered on last Thursday, set it up and had a go on Friday and Sunday I had taken care of most of the paper copies, to the tune of several thousand copies scanned and somewhat archived. Scanned in 600DPI TIFFS, which is the largest size the scanner handled without interpolating the scans, which it can do up to 1200 DPI, it took about 3 second pr scan, and the feeder took up to 50 pictures in a stack (30 recommended, but curiousity didnt kill the cat). It also does JPGs at 300 and 600DPI.

Having used scanners on and off since the mid 90s, I have always had it down as a bit of a tedious process, but since I last dabbed with it doing photographies, the software has come a rather long way, and FF-680 does both back and front scanning, if it is set up to do it, and it does it in the same pass. The software will also promt you to build a file structure around decade or year, time of year or month and then a user defined name. This makes export into a date based LR catalog/file tree quite easy and also gives a rather decent and managable file structure.

I now have a decent control on the hoard and what the scanner is good for as well as what it has some trouble with mainly some dimpled photographic paper in vogue in the 60 and 70s, which seems to leave a random set of white spots on the scans. Most likely there is some sort of reflection/shadowing going on, which makes the dotted bits unscanned.

I now know reasonable well what I have in the hoard and has a bit of ideas for how to properly build the archive up, and has an idea about what went down the drains when the hoard was stored in my parents basement when they had a water ingress. I have scanned almost all sorts of sizes from passport sized prints which is does as long as the photograph is left with borders intact, cut down to just the frame, it is touch and go if it will scan or malfunction, and up to A4, which is as high as it goes, sizewise.

A few samples:
Example 1A.jpgExample 1B.jpg

Orginal, with a less than nice colourcast, and the auto conversion. Both done by the same pass through the scanner and colour correction fully enabled and automated. The original pic is shot on slide, then the slide is re-shot on negative film in the 90s.

Example 2.jpg

Best opened, original most likely a 6X6 contact print.

Example 3A.jpgExample 3b.jpg
Polaroids, auto corrected. This format has its own setting in the scanner, not entirely sure how it differs from the Paper copy one.


Just to drop a few. None of the examples has anything done with them in post, they are straight off the scanner.

Just looked at the hoard as it stands, with most of it being scanned, leaving a couple of crates I didn't locate and a whole lot of pre 30s pictures mounted on cardboard and/or in albums. The count is a bit over 4K and was done in a few hours over a couple days.

What is now left is the slides, negatives (to some extent) and the afore mentioned pre 1930s hoard.

For those, I have a Epson V600 on order and some doubts how I will manage to integrate the files from that into the current automated structure. Time will show. The dreaded hoard is anyhow given a new lease of life as I now have reasonable control on whats in there.


In conclusion: The Epson FF-680w is 10/10 and I would highly recommend for anyone with a hoard of paper copies.
 
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Glad you got yours and it sounds like you're going to get a lot of good use out of it. Agree 100% on it being a game changer - significantly faster than a flatbed. (Even my previous version.)

I've been using the flatbed (V600) for 135 slides and negatives. I have an inexpensive Kodak scanner ( https://www.kodak.com/en/consumer/product/printing-scanning/film-scanners/mini-digital-film-scanner/ ) I picked up several years ago to scan 110 negatives. It also does Super 8 negs, 110 slides, 126 negs, 135 negs and slides. Only things I've used it for are 110 and 126 negs. Saves jpgs to SD card, I then import to computer, convert to tif and save to the archive drives.

The little Kodak works OK. Not bad, not great. My flatbed and the FF do better scans. One thing I noticed is that 110 prints scan on the flatbed better than 110 negs scan on the Kodak, but the 126 neg scans from the Kodak look as good to my eye as what I get from 126 prints scanned on the flatbed. :hmmm:

Only advise I can give with the flatbed is to do the presorting, IMHO it's about the only real time saver as the preview and scan of 4 slides takes multiple minutes plus the time to load and unload slides. The neg holder IMHO is more time consuming. And the more processing you ask the software to do, the longer it takes. Of course the faster the computer the better, mine is old broken down instead of new hotness and likely the source of slowness for me.

My main goal has to been get the mountain scanned and saved to multiple archive drives. I've been scanning pretty much as-is, archiving the tifs, and taking files I want to share into post-processing to do any needed work. Once everything is scanned, I'll try to get family to help review images and cull anything not really needed to be kept (a lot of images with no dates or notes, not even sure if some are of family members).

I think I have finally finished scanning all slides this evening. Also scanned all the 110 and 126 negs I could easily locate. Might still find some as I go through the remaining stuff. Down to 3 and 1/2 clear small plastic tubs with prints and 135 negs, one archival notebook with 135 negs, another notebook with prints and articles of genealogical import to the family, and one large flat cardboard box with some outsize prints. The V600 is going to see increasing use as I finish prints that can go through the FF.

Now a hill, vs the mountain I started with several years ago, scanning off and on between other things that eat up a lot of my time.

edits - typos and grammar
 
As I mentioned in Jens' other thread, I need to get up to speed using my Epson V700 Photo scanner, as I've forgotten how to scan slides with it ...

Maybe I should RTFM ...

I will buy the Epson FF-380 as soon as it becomes available here again, probably around mid August.
 
Glad you got yours and it sounds like you're going to get a lot of good use out of it. Agree 100% on it being a game changer - significantly faster than a flatbed. (Even my

The little Kodak works OK. Not bad, not great. My flatbed and the FF do better scans. One thing I noticed is that 110 prints scan on the flatbed better than 110 negs scan on the Kodak, but the 126 neg scans from the Kodak look as good to my eye as what I get from 126 prints scanned on the flatbed. :hmmm:

Only advise I can give with the flatbed is to do the presorting, IMHO it's about the only real time saver as the preview and scan of 4 slides takes multiple minutes plus the time to load and unload slides. The neg holder IMHO is more time consuming. And the more processing you ask the software to do, the longer it takes. Of course the faster the computer the better, mine is old broken down instead of new hotness and likely the source of slowness for me.
I have a 110 negative holder from Lomography that I will try out on the flatbed, and not much 110 negatives to go work with. My paternal grandfather was a 110 and Polaroid shooter with a few of the "higher end" 110 models up to and including the Pentax 110, but I dont have much of his stuff, other than in hard copies.

Stumbled over a envelope of 110 negatives, but havent really looked on them, and I think I have shot one roll of 126 myself, as my first camera was some sort of gift packed Kodak Instamatic I got for christmas once sometime in the 70s. It was one of those models where the film cartridges itself was the back of the camera when it was mounted, sort of camera.

The box it came in was the most fancy part of the whole set, sturdy top in Kodak yellow with a red slide out bottom and a red satin cloth where upon the "camera" atrocity rested along with a film cartridge and one of those flash cubes with 4 flashes and a very plasticky wrist strap. It did make an impression though. A clear manifestation of deceiving packaging and false advertising, when the horrid results was delivered to the eager photograper... :ROFLMAO:
 
Honestly, I'm not looking forward to scanning the huge piles of 135 negs. Talk about drudge work. A lot of different-sized strips, and a lot of loose single or double negs. But, that's for a time later down the road.

I remember how most of the 126 cameras family and I used felt plasticky, cheap not HD plastics.
 
I've just done a set of 12 135 format slides, three times, to work out how to get the best out of my Epson 700 Photo.

It seems that 1200 dpi, tiff, seems to give decent results.

It's important not to have the slides differently oriented. All should be in the landscape orientation, otherwise file sizes get all stuffed up.

Other settings are also important, but I've turned my computer off.

File sizes are around 8-10 MB and decent IQ.
 
As I mentioned in Jens' other thread, I need to get up to speed using my Epson V700 Photo scanner, as I've forgotten how to scan slides with it ...

Maybe I should RTFM ...

I will buy the Epson FF-380 as soon as it becomes available here again, probably around mid August.
Well, I've found some time to experiment with scanning slides using my Epson Perfection V700 Photo flatbed scanner.

One result below.

April-1984_3017_E.jpg


While not an outstanding result, the slide is from April, 1984. Taken with my Olympus OM1 on Agfa Vista 400 film (IIRC).
No PP, other than a small USM.
Certainly good enough to print at A3 size.
 
Just BTW, I spent several hours today resurrecting my Epson Stylus Pro R3880 printer. I haven't used it for 4 or 5 years, or more, mainly due to other calls on my time. e.g. sorting out my deceased brother-in-law's estate, which is within a stone's throw of being wound up (thank god!! ... ).

This might seem excessive, but I am physically incapable of doing more than a couple of hours at anything, these days

It took 4 alignment prints and a power clean, but it is now printing beautifully, and I'm completely knackered.

I'm amazed that the print head had not terminally dried up and died, but it hadn't.

It's a tribute to the fabulous design and build quality of this printer.
 
I just bought an Epson FF-680W yesterday.

Talk about a unicorn item here!

Brilliant, but will not work wirelessly on a 5 GHz only network or device.
John, Jens, does that do slides?
My scans went AWOL a while back.
So I need to start again.
I've an old Epson Perfection something. It's brilliant but slow.
This isn't cheap but if it works slides easily and well then worth considering
 
John, Jens, does that do slides?
My scans went AWOL a while back.
So I need to start again.
I've an old Epson Perfection something. It's brilliant but slow.
This isn't cheap but if it works slides easily and well then worth considering
Richard, I'm afraid that it only does prints and documents.

I understand how painfully slow the Epson Perfection Photo V700 is, and that it does a very workmanlike job on just about anything, including 6x6 positives, and almost anything else.

I suspect that the Nikon automatic slide scanner is about the only option.
I don't know if it's still available new.
 
Richard, I'm afraid that it only does prints and documents.

I understand how painfully slow the Epson Perfection Photo V700 is, and that it does a very workmanlike job on just about anything, including 6x6 positives, and almost anything else.

I suspect that the Nikon automatic slide scanner is about the only option.
I don't know if it's still available new.
Thanks John
Looks like I'll do what I did before.
Load it up, set go, and find something else to do for a while or two.
It's not like I have to hold its hand
 
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