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I've been trying to use my old Sony A7 III more, as I have tons of lenses for it, and it can deliver technically excellent results. Here's Coals in my son's bed, shot both with my Fuji (JPEG out of camera, lightly processed in Lightroom Mobile) and my A7 III (RAW processed in DXO PhotoLab with DXO's Fuji Classic Chrome film simulation). On my laptop, I think I like the Sony result better, but on my phone, the Fuji result looks great too, and it took a lot less effort. What do y'all think?

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I've been trying to use my old Sony A7 III more, as I have tons of lenses for it, and it can deliver technically excellent results. Here's Coals in my son's bed, shot both with my Fuji (JPEG out of camera, lightly processed in Lightroom Mobile) and my A7 III (RAW processed in DXO PhotoLab with DXO's Fuji Classic Chrome film simulation). On my laptop, I think I like the Sony result better, but on my phone, the Fuji result looks great too, and it took a lot less effort. What do y'all think?

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For me I'd be hesitant to judge one against the other due to the Sony file being shot raw unlike the Fuji jpeg file and the significantly differing iso on each image. Others here might be able to provide more input though.
 
I've been trying to use my old Sony A7 III more, as I have tons of lenses for it, and it can deliver technically excellent results. Here's Coals in my son's bed, shot both with my Fuji (JPEG out of camera, lightly processed in Lightroom Mobile) and my A7 III (RAW processed in DXO PhotoLab with DXO's Fuji Classic Chrome film simulation). On my laptop, I think I like the Sony result better, but on my phone, the Fuji result looks great too, and it took a lot less effort. What do y'all think?

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I would agree with Rayvonn BUT I do prefer the Sony file because the blacks are so much cleaner and inky black, but again we are talking about JPEG at more then one stop brighter VS RAW file from an excellent sensor.
 
I've been trying to use my old Sony A7 III more, as I have tons of lenses for it, and it can deliver technically excellent results. Here's Coals in my son's bed, shot both with my Fuji (JPEG out of camera, lightly processed in Lightroom Mobile) and my A7 III (RAW processed in DXO PhotoLab with DXO's Fuji Classic Chrome film simulation). On my laptop, I think I like the Sony result better, but on my phone, the Fuji result looks great too, and it took a lot less effort. What do y'all think?

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Percy, I echo both Tim and Ovi's comments. It's not really a fair comparison. Leaving aside the vastly different shooting parameters, a processed RAW should always win over an OoC JPG. The fact that the JPG is better in some respects is amazing.
 
Percy, I echo both Tim and Ovi's comments. It's not really a fair comparison. Leaving aside the vastly different shooting parameters, a processed RAW should always win over an OoC JPG. The fact that the JPG is better in some respects is amazing.
Further, black cats tend to develop a brown tinge to their fur as they age.

When you eyeball Coals' coat in bright light, is it pure black, or has it got a brown tinge at the tips?
 
For me I'd be hesitant to judge one against the other due to the Sony file being shot raw unlike the Fuji jpeg file and the significantly differing iso on each image. Others here might be able to provide more input though.

Yeah, the funny thing is that the Sony was shot at a higher ISO, but DXO's noise reduction is so amazing. For comparison, below is the Fuji shot processed in DXO from raw. I also cooled down the white balance to better match the Sony, as I had shot the Sony with white priority and the Fuji with ambience priority white balance. This brings things closer in terms of detail recovery, though I think the Fuji 18mm shot wide open is still at a disadvantage to the Samyang 35mm stopped down to F/2.8. You can notice this when zooming in on the eyes, but at 100% on my laptop, the eyes look pretty nice with both, so maybe this is just gratuitous pixel-peeping.

I think I land here:

1. Fuji OOC is certainly good enough for social sharing, probably even printing in moderate sizes. It's tough to beat this workflow for instant gratification - shoot, upload to phone with USB dongle, tweak lighting and unsharp mask in Lightroom Mobile for less than a minute, post.

2. Taking the time to process RAW in DXO from either camera yields noticeable improvements in acuity, with the difference being more pronounced here because of the relatively low light/high ISO conditions benefiting from DXO's noise reduction. So even on the Fuji, it's worth shooting JPEG+RAW, if for no other reason than peace of mind.

3. A Sony A7 III with a Samyang 35mm F1.8 can ultimately capture more detail than the XT30 II with a Fuji 18mm F2. Things might look different with Fuji's 18mm F1.4, but that spoils the compact package that I enjoy with the XT30. The question is, when/how does this detail matter? I'll keep thinking on that.

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@whole.photo Percy, as I state in my footer block, almost all the images I post here (99%+) are OoC JPEGs that have been run through a Photoshop action that applies a small unsharp mask to compensate for having sharpening turned down/off in-camera, and conversion to sRGB (as I always shoot aRGB in-camera). The rest of the actions are housekeeping - copyright notice, frame, drop shadow, resize by half, etc.

The action saves the file with a new extension in an upload folder.

I then (usually) batch upload to my own website using FileZilla (or FTP Pro on my tablet).

For anything serious, I use the RAW file, as I always shoot RAW + LSF JPEG.

I only very rarely do any manual editing of files that I upload to the web.

Just FWIW.
 
I've been trying to use my old Sony A7 III more, as I have tons of lenses for it, and it can deliver technically excellent results. Here's Coals in my son's bed, shot both with my Fuji (JPEG out of camera, lightly processed in Lightroom Mobile) and my A7 III (RAW processed in DXO PhotoLab with DXO's Fuji Classic Chrome film simulation). On my laptop, I think I like the Sony result better, but on my phone, the Fuji result looks great too, and it took a lot less effort. What do y'all think?

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Hey, Percy - nice feline portraits.
To answer your question - and I'm viewing both pictures on the large Apple Cinema monitor attached to my desktop Mac - I truly prefer the Fuji jpeg - it somehow seems both warmer and richer to me, vs. the shot taken with your Sony A7 which seems, to me at least, slightly 'harsher' (not sure if that's the right adjective). But being a Fujiholic and a big fan of the jpeg output of all of my Fujis, I think you should take my opinion with a big grain of salt ;)
 
Yeah, the funny thing is that the Sony was shot at a higher ISO, but DXO's noise reduction is so amazing. For comparison, below is the Fuji shot processed in DXO from raw. I also cooled down the white balance to better match the Sony, as I had shot the Sony with white priority and the Fuji with ambience priority white balance. This brings things closer in terms of detail recovery, though I think the Fuji 18mm shot wide open is still at a disadvantage to the Samyang 35mm stopped down to F/2.8. You can notice this when zooming in on the eyes, but at 100% on my laptop, the eyes look pretty nice with both, so maybe this is just gratuitous pixel-peeping.

I think I land here:

1. Fuji OOC is certainly good enough for social sharing, probably even printing in moderate sizes. It's tough to beat this workflow for instant gratification - shoot, upload to phone with USB dongle, tweak lighting and unsharp mask in Lightroom Mobile for less than a minute, post.

2. Taking the time to process RAW in DXO from either camera yields noticeable improvements in acuity, with the difference being more pronounced here because of the relatively low light/high ISO conditions benefiting from DXO's noise reduction. So even on the Fuji, it's worth shooting JPEG+RAW, if for no other reason than peace of mind.

3. A Sony A7 III with a Samyang 35mm F1.8 can ultimately capture more detail than the XT30 II with a Fuji 18mm F2. Things might look different with Fuji's 18mm F1.4, but that spoils the compact package that I enjoy with the XT30. The question is, when/how does this detail matter? I'll keep thinking on that.

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One more follow-up comment on this third photo of yours, Percy - the Fuji XT30 RAW file processed in DXO - and I think my subjective reaction is really an outlier here, but once more, I truly prefer the colors of your original Fuji jpeg to any of the RAW-processed-in-DXO versions. I'm only curious about one thing - in your first post, you said the Fuji shot was a jpeg - but you didn't specify which, if any, of the internal jpeg simulations you used. My guess is that you were using the XT30-II's Classic Chrome simulation - were you? Because (confession follows) Classic Chrome is one of my favorite jpeg sims on almost all of my different Fujifilm cameras (although it tends to have interesting minute variations among them) - and I think it was a masterful piece of color engineering by the Fuji color Nerds responsible for it. For me, DXO's Classic Chrome setting comes close to the original ones - but doesn't quite pull it off.

One other (extremely subjective) thought - to me, the rendering of the Samyang (a very sharp lens indeed) seems slightly more 'clinical' - while the XF18mm (one of my favorite Fujinon lenses) seems to render in a slightly more organic fashion (whatever the hell that means ;)
 
Hey, Percy - nice feline portraits.
To answer your question - and I'm viewing both pictures on the large Apple Cinema monitor attached to my desktop Mac - I truly prefer the Fuji jpeg - it somehow seems both warmer and richer to me, vs. the shot taken with your Sony A7 which seems, to me at least, slightly 'harsher' (not sure if that's the right adjective). But being a Fujiholic and a big fan of the jpeg output of all of my Fujis, I think you should take my opinion with a big grain of salt ;)
I agree Miguel. I had exactly the same thoughts, and I am viewing on an iPad!
 
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