The Single Most Important Issue in Modern Photography

drd1135

Zen Snapshooter
Jul 13, 2011
Lexington, VA
Steve
While I have used tilt screens occasionally when I've owned cameras which have them. I find that I prefer fixed screens. And at least with the Pro2 vs T2. The rear screen has more resolution as a trade off of not being tilty or twisty.
The X Pro 3 has the same res screen and it tilts. I never really thought of this as an issue.
 
Dec 31, 2013
Louisville, Ky
The X Pro 3 has the same res screen and it tilts. I never really thought of this as an issue.
That's why I mentioned the Pro2/T2 specifically. Fuji changed their ideology going into the T3/4 and Pro3. My thinking is that Fuji did not intend for the Pro3 screen to be used in the manner a flip screen is constantly used. But it is capable of being used that way for people who want to. And to your point, no it is not an issue. The implementation of it on the Pro3 is perfect for people like myself.
 

drd1135

Zen Snapshooter
Jul 13, 2011
Lexington, VA
Steve
Just to note, in the XT4 review on DPR, they state under cons:
“Fully articulating screen may not be your preferred option for stills shooting.” At least they finally acknowledge the preferences.
 

MoonMind

Hall of Famer
Dec 29, 2013
Switzerland
Matt
The engineers are pretty clever. Some day they're going to announce a system that's both FAS and tilty. That will mark the end of mobile phone photography!
I was looking into something very similar this morning - a monitor stand that was versatile enough for my specific needs (little room, aesthetic necessities). They exist :2thumbs:

That said, miniaturising that will be tricky ;)

M.
 

drd1135

Zen Snapshooter
Jul 13, 2011
Lexington, VA
Steve
I recently acquired the book “Vivian Maier, Street Photographer”. The cover shows here with her Rollei TLR. I immediately thought of the screen issue. I do like waist level shooting, which is probably why fixed screens frustrate me. I also note the new X100v has a nice compromise. The screen tilts, but folds in nearly as tidy as a fixed screen. One thing for sure, the camera companies aren’t going to make three flavors. At best, the screen could be an interchangeable part.
 
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William Lewis

Veteran
Feb 10, 2020
Hayward WI
William Lewis
I have never owned a camera with a moving screen. I wonder if the "fully articulated" ones are actually articulated enough to flip them around to hide the display so I wouldn't have to look at them?

I'd actually prefer no screen except for menus and settings - I almost never view images on camera and absolutely despise trying to take photos on one of them. That's never going to happen so I just tolerate them and turn off as much as possible.
 

drd1135

Zen Snapshooter
Jul 13, 2011
Lexington, VA
Steve
I have never owned a camera with a moving screen. I wonder if the "fully articulated" ones are actually articulated enough to flip them around to hide the display so I wouldn't have to look at them?

I'd actually prefer no screen except for menus and settings - I almost never view images on camera and absolutely despise trying to take photos on one of them. That's never going to happen so I just tolerate them and turn off as much as possible.
Yes, most of the FA ones will do that.
 

Lawrence A.

Hall of Famer
Nov 8, 2012
New Mexico
Larry
It's interesting what is or is not absolutely necessary for one photographer or another. Articulating, flip, or fixed screens are all fine by me. I do use the articulating screen on the Pen-F now and again, but not often. What is absolutely necessary for me is an eye level viewfinder, or, as with the Leica type 113 or the X1, the ability to attach one. And again, it doesn't have to do much more than allow me to frame my shot by holding the thing to my eye. I'll admit it: I'm old, and a lot of the sturm and drang about what is or is not absolutely essential in a camera strikes me as much ado about nothing. You know, "unless it's full frame and does the laundry, it's useless; and if it doesn't go up to iso one million, don't even think of taking available light photos indoors at night with it." I'm thankful for some of the gadgetry in modern cameras, but very little of it - other than the eye level VF- is a dealbreaker for me. I've caught up with modern photography and find it has lots of "nice to haves" but way more than I personally need to enjoy photographing. Everyone has there "must haves". My two favorite cameras du jour? The Pen F and the Leica D-lux type 109, and I'm actually glad the D-lux has a fixed screen.
 

melanieylang

Regular
Sep 18, 2017
As someone who really struggles with fully articulating screens, I was very excited when the Fujifilm X-T100 was released with a clever tilting screen, which also hinged to face forwards, unlike the one on the X-T3. It allowed for easier angling in portrait orientation, if one was willing to turn the camera in the opposite direction (which worked for me, as I don't have a set direction). To my thinking, this was the best possible solution, but it was ditched from the X-T200 in favour of FA.
 

drd1135

Zen Snapshooter
Jul 13, 2011
Lexington, VA
Steve
As someone who really struggles with fully articulating screens, I was very excited when the Fujifilm X-T100 was released with a clever tilting screen, which also hinged to face forwards, unlike the one on the X-T3. It allowed for easier angling in portrait orientation, if one was willing to turn the camera in the opposite direction (which worked for me, as I don't have a set direction). To my thinking, this was the best possible solution, but it was ditched from the X-T200 in favour of FA.
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Fuji has really made some nice choices for this low end model. The X-T200 actually has a bigger screen (3.5 in) at a higher resolution.
 

Dean Smith

Veteran
Nov 3, 2016
My Speed Graphic didn’t have a flip out screen, just a ground glass screen. Maybe that’s why I‘m not interested in articulating screens.
 

kyteflyer

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Jan 31, 2011
Newcastle, Australia
Sue
Screens... arghhh. I never wanted a tilty screen but I have one on the TZ90. I use it more than I use the miniscule viewfinder, which I would use more if it were larger. In bright sunshine its handy for using your own bod to shade an otherwise almost unuseable screen. I’ve always preferred the variable angle screen, partly because it can be turned in to face the camera body, and thus remain unscratched or otherwise damaged. In actual use... I don’t find it better or worse than tilting screens except that in recent years the tilt has been more about selfies than various angles for shooting. eg, overhead has become n/a it seems, or if it does overhead, don’t expect to be able to get it down on the ground and see the screen which now points the wrong way.

Overall, though, give me a nice big bright viewfinder and I don’t care if its EVF or OVF.
 

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