Ray Sachs
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One of the MAJOR features that got me interested in the Fuji system in the first place was the hybrid viewfinder, with OVF, first in the X100, then in the X-Pro. I initially got the X-Pro with the 18 and 35mm lenses, which both worked brilliantly with the OVF half of the hybrid finder. The 60mm didn't appeal to me both because of it's very slow AF and because the OVF used such a small frame with that lens that it didn't appeal as a practical alternative.
I later added a 14mm lens for the X-Pro and, while it was technically compatible with the OVF, I didn't find shooting with the OVF a practical alternative because the frame didn't quite fit into the entire frame of the OVF and the lens blocked quite a bit of the view, particularly with the hood in place. Once I bought an RX1 and Nikon A, I sold the X-Pro with the 18 and 35mm lenses and just picked up a used XE1 to use with the 14mm. The EVF is really all that's needed with that lens, because the OVF isn't a very pleasant shooting experience. I never used the X-Pro with a zoom, but I seriously doubt I'd enjoy using the OVF with a zoom, particularly one where you'd really want to be changing the magnification level mid-zoom. And with the more extreme zooms, like the 55-200 and the coming 10-24 it wouldn't work at all.
Then today I saw a couple of first impression type posts about the new 23mm f1.4 lens, which I figured would be right in the wheelhouse for use of the OVF, right between the 18 and 35mm. BUT, two things keep the OVF from really being a great alternative with this lens either. FIrst, the focal length is sort of between the two magnification levels in the OVF, so if you use it with the 35mm level of magnification, it would evidently exceed the limits of the frame. And so it's used with the 18mm level of magnification, but that leaves the framelines quite small out in the middle of the OVF, with a HUGE area around the frame. And, second, even with that greatly reduced frame size, the lens is just enormous and still manages to block a good portion of that reduced frame, and even more-so with the large hood. So, as with the 60mm, the OVF is useable, but far from optimal. I would imagine that the same types of challenges will be there when the 56mm lens is released, with framelines probably quite similar to the very small frame used with the 60mm. I haven't tried the 27mm pancake with an X-Pro, but it would seem that it should work pretty well with the OVF, with framelines somewhat smaller than the 35 (using the same level of magnification), but at least the lens wouldn't be in the way of the view!
So, I'm wondering if the OVF really has a future in the Fuji lineup? The X100 and X100s have a relatively easy time of it, with a single focal length (although the 28mm lens adapter, which is otherwise excellent, also creates problems here). But the X-Pro OVF seemed to be designed specifically to optimize for two of the three lenses initially released with the camera, the 18 and 35mm. And now, a year and a half later, the system has grown considerably with several more lenses. And the OVF is really only particularly useable with 2-3 of the lenses. This, combined with the rumored release of an XE1 update before any mention of an X-Pro update makes me really wonder what Fuji's future plans for the OVF are, if there are any plans for it at all. Given the compatibility issues with the majority of the lenses in the line, will the OVF hang on in just a niche model and be primarily useable with the 18, 27, and 35mm lenses? Or will they re-engineer the thing to work with a wider variety of lenses and continue to offer it in their flagship model? The hybrid viewfinder seems like a no-brainer in future models of the X100/100s, assuming there will be future models. And maybe if they ever release any other fixed lens cameras it would work. But I recall wondering when I heard the rumors of an ILC version of the X100 back before the X-Pro was a reality - how would Fuji make an OVF work with various focal lengths? It just seemed like a huge engineering challenge. And maybe, in retrospect, it was a bridge too far. I'm really wondering if the primary hook that got me into the Fuji system is coming to an end...
Any thoughts? Any speculation? Any knowledge beyond mere speculation (yeah, Rico, this one's mostly for you!)?
-Ray
I later added a 14mm lens for the X-Pro and, while it was technically compatible with the OVF, I didn't find shooting with the OVF a practical alternative because the frame didn't quite fit into the entire frame of the OVF and the lens blocked quite a bit of the view, particularly with the hood in place. Once I bought an RX1 and Nikon A, I sold the X-Pro with the 18 and 35mm lenses and just picked up a used XE1 to use with the 14mm. The EVF is really all that's needed with that lens, because the OVF isn't a very pleasant shooting experience. I never used the X-Pro with a zoom, but I seriously doubt I'd enjoy using the OVF with a zoom, particularly one where you'd really want to be changing the magnification level mid-zoom. And with the more extreme zooms, like the 55-200 and the coming 10-24 it wouldn't work at all.
Then today I saw a couple of first impression type posts about the new 23mm f1.4 lens, which I figured would be right in the wheelhouse for use of the OVF, right between the 18 and 35mm. BUT, two things keep the OVF from really being a great alternative with this lens either. FIrst, the focal length is sort of between the two magnification levels in the OVF, so if you use it with the 35mm level of magnification, it would evidently exceed the limits of the frame. And so it's used with the 18mm level of magnification, but that leaves the framelines quite small out in the middle of the OVF, with a HUGE area around the frame. And, second, even with that greatly reduced frame size, the lens is just enormous and still manages to block a good portion of that reduced frame, and even more-so with the large hood. So, as with the 60mm, the OVF is useable, but far from optimal. I would imagine that the same types of challenges will be there when the 56mm lens is released, with framelines probably quite similar to the very small frame used with the 60mm. I haven't tried the 27mm pancake with an X-Pro, but it would seem that it should work pretty well with the OVF, with framelines somewhat smaller than the 35 (using the same level of magnification), but at least the lens wouldn't be in the way of the view!
So, I'm wondering if the OVF really has a future in the Fuji lineup? The X100 and X100s have a relatively easy time of it, with a single focal length (although the 28mm lens adapter, which is otherwise excellent, also creates problems here). But the X-Pro OVF seemed to be designed specifically to optimize for two of the three lenses initially released with the camera, the 18 and 35mm. And now, a year and a half later, the system has grown considerably with several more lenses. And the OVF is really only particularly useable with 2-3 of the lenses. This, combined with the rumored release of an XE1 update before any mention of an X-Pro update makes me really wonder what Fuji's future plans for the OVF are, if there are any plans for it at all. Given the compatibility issues with the majority of the lenses in the line, will the OVF hang on in just a niche model and be primarily useable with the 18, 27, and 35mm lenses? Or will they re-engineer the thing to work with a wider variety of lenses and continue to offer it in their flagship model? The hybrid viewfinder seems like a no-brainer in future models of the X100/100s, assuming there will be future models. And maybe if they ever release any other fixed lens cameras it would work. But I recall wondering when I heard the rumors of an ILC version of the X100 back before the X-Pro was a reality - how would Fuji make an OVF work with various focal lengths? It just seemed like a huge engineering challenge. And maybe, in retrospect, it was a bridge too far. I'm really wondering if the primary hook that got me into the Fuji system is coming to an end...
Any thoughts? Any speculation? Any knowledge beyond mere speculation (yeah, Rico, this one's mostly for you!)?
-Ray