For now I won't repost the images I've put up on the "X20 Images..."thread, but I'll be back with some for this thread as I become more familiar with the camera.
Lawrence A.;8413 Would I recommend the camera? Definitely. It's fun to shoot with said:Thanks, lawrence. That is the type of shots and info that is helpful! The difference between jpeg en raw is amazing (i quickly switched to raw because the postprocessing is an easy and quick process). It is also interesting that NR-2 does not help. Which sharpness, highlight, and shadows settings did you use? Which DR? I was planning to do a bunch of shots with x10 and x20 to learn more.
That pretty much reflects the findings I posted in my column about 4 weeks
Thanks! I am looking forward to learning more about your findings. I will also check some of my jpegs and compare them with the RAW.
I noticed the "not so good news" thread, posted a reply but decided to delete it. I am still puzzled though.
Since I did not recall this, I reread and still cannot find that part. You specifically talk about DR200 and DR400 when you talk about detail in shadows. No word about smearing and alike. Did I miss anything?
Not sure if it's important since you said that the x20 needs different handling (i like phrase xpro1 with a small sensor!). Btw: impressive results with the raw conversion!
Thanks for your posts.
What does this practically mean? It means that you should not shoot your new X20 exactly like you shoot an X10. Instead, apply DR expansion more carefully! You often will not need it, anyway, and if you do, DR200% will mostly be sufficient. If you decide to use DR expansion, make sure that the main subject (the part of the scene that’ shows plenty of detail and is in-focus) isn’t dark and in the shadows.
In order to extract the best quality from an X20, I recommend shooting RAW using DR100% and exposing to the right (ETTR) with the help of the camera’s live histogram, then process the RAW externally with Lightroom, Silkypix or another RAW converter of your choosing. If you want to use JPEGs from the camera (or the camera’s internal RAW converter) instead, I recommend shooting (or processing) with a noise reduction setting of -1 or even -2, depending on your actual scene.
I personally prefer the grainy and more detailed look of Lightroom (with minimal NR) over the look offered by the camera’s JPEG engine.
That's what the jpeg engine is doing with disastrous results -- in my oh so very humble opinion.
Mine, too. I wonder whether this is a look that's popular in Asia these days? Because Silkypix 5 is smoothing high-ISO RAWs per default in a similar way (version 5 adapts its default NR settings to the shots ISO settings), while LR's default is "lumi NR off", no matter what ISO. This is quite extreme, almost like a clash of cultures.
My completely uninformed guess would be a "rush to market" compromise as opposed to this being a popular look anywhere. In their hurry to get the internal settings balanced perhaps the give and take of the ship date required suboptimal settings in one area in order to improve some other setting, while realizing that they can tune after shipping and push a new firmware update.Mine, too. I wonder whether this is a look that's popular in Asia these days?