Fuji XF10, they were right, not the X70 replacement

Chris2500dk

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Dec 22, 2011
Copenhagen, Denmark
It's going to be interesting to see how the lens performs on the 24mp sensor, looks to be the same lens the X70 has. From what I could gather the X70 lens isn't as sharp as the Ricoh GR one, and a higher resolution sensor is going to show that even more. But maybe they improved the lens.

It looks a lot like a Ricoh GR competitor, more than a X70 replacement, they even added a version of Ricoh's snap focus. No flash hot shoe though.

With a new sensor, touch screen and the AF joystick it looks pretty good I think, but it's a shame they decided to add a crippled 15fps 4K mode, not sure what they were thinking there, it's pretty much useless. I would have liked a flip screen.
 

Chris2500dk

Top Veteran
Dec 22, 2011
Copenhagen, Denmark
Back when the GR first came out Nikon announced the Coolpix A just before Ricoh announced, and then Ricoh launched the GR at a lower price than the A.
Hoping we'll see a GR III soon at a lower price than the XF10 :D
 
It's certainly a weird camera. No hotshoe, no filter threads, only minimal buttons on the back of the camera (they are definitely pushing people to the touchscreen gestures and swipes for everything but exposure controls), no AdobeRGB color space, but twin exposure dials (and it would be interesting to see what options there are for the lens ring control - the intro video seems to show switching film simulation modes), and a halfhearted copy of Ricoh's snap focusing and Panasonic's 4K photo modes.

I highly doubt Fuji would expand their line of 28mm fixed lens cameras such that they also release an X80, but this camera seems to back down from being a real Ricoh GR challenger. Fuji is certainly rounding out the ultra-cheap end of their lineup. Probably smart. It occurs to me that if they did release an X80, it could have a better lens design, while the XF10's price could be a good excuse for continuing to offer the soft-ish and unimpressive design from the X70.
 

mnhoj

gee aahrr
Jan 27, 2012
Los Angeles
John
Would make an awesome little street set up.
Snap shot mode all day. Stealthy and sneaky. ( :

Other than that, I'd probably want to use something else.
 

Archiver

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Jul 11, 2010
Melbourne, Australia
This looks great except for the lack of filter thread. With that, you could attach a UV filter and never have to worry about a lens cap.

The 15fps 4K video is obviously there to be able to tick 4K on a spec sheet. Oh well.
 
Aug 13, 2011
Sunny Frimley
Bill Palmer
This looks great except for the lack of filter thread. With that, you could attach a UV filter and never have to worry about a lens cap.
Take a look at the self-adhesive ones from Accmax. They are available on eBay for a range of cameras. I've had one on my GRs for a while and just bought one for the RX100. They do protect the lens...
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mnhoj

gee aahrr
Jan 27, 2012
Los Angeles
John
Not sure I like the concept of snap focus where you don't get to select the aperture (or shutter speed, obviously). Kind of hamstrung if that's the only way to use pre-measured distances.
I was trying to be optimistic.

It’s a hamstring camera. A little more would’ve/could’ve went a long way. IMO.
 
I was trying to be optimistic.

It’s a hamstring camera. A little more would’ve/could’ve went a long way. IMO.
Yeah, filter threads would have cost literally nothing. Just design them into the front element surround. Literally no cost.

That said, It would be a good camera for my wife as a possible update to her GF7, and one that I'd "borrow" for a no-hassles snapshooter. I'm not saying I'm against this type of camera. I feel more of these sorts of cameras should exist instead of crappy small-sensor cameras with slow zoom lenses. If this really does fall below $400, it's a screamer of a deal. It in no way replaces the GR cameras, but if the next GR either doesn't materialize or (more likely) debuts at a higher price point than previously, it can exist in the same space, easily.

It has PDAF. If the focus is fast and reliable, it will have what it needs for the type of street shooting I like to do (not going to use that hamstrung snap focus mode).
 

ggweci

Veteran
Feb 2, 2013
Toronto, Canada
Craig
I think it looks like a great option for a pocket camera:

- nice price point for an APS-C camera in this style
- small, actually pocketable, but with a nice looking GR style grip
- excellent Fuji skin tones for the snap shot and social media crowd
- wifi and square (Instagram) mode for above
- all of Fuji's nice film simulations that users want (minus Acros unfortunately :()
- GR style snap focus, yes not as flexible, but still great settings for (daytime) street shooting with no AF lag.

Overall, seems like a tempting carry everywhere option. I have my eye on it and am looking for some detailed reviews, mainly regarding the lens quality and combo with the 24mp sensor.
 
Yes, I am eagerly awaiting reviews. A few other things I'm curious about:

• lens ring: how many functions will be available to customize to this ring? Possible actually decent manual focus (although focus by wire), which the GR doesn't have?

• any possibility to back button focus?

• exposure compensation in M mode with auto ISO (comparable to TAv mode on the GR, or the auto ISO function in the very latest M4/3 cams)?

Also, why is this silly square mode a thing? Didn't Instagram drop the square image format a couple years ago now? I have a hard time seeing what the appeal is, unless it's almost solely to try and sell their portable Instax Square printer. Cut the price of Instax film in half and I'll look at it. It's way too expensive for the gimmicky lomo results.
 
Shooting impression here: XF10: First Shooting Impressions

There haven't been a lot of real experiences yet with this camera (bigheadtaco's 'unboxing' video is also good) but here's a new one. From this impressions piece it appears the swipe function can be reprogrammed from the gimmicky square format that is the default (and, in my opinion, one of the least appealing "features" Fuji has decided to tout) into something more useful. This article mentions 4 swipes, so it sounds like we could possibly program a swipe from each of the four edges of the screen to bring up something different. Still not my ideal user interface, but better than nothing for a camera with so few buttons. If the quick menu is still locked out of touchscreen use, I'll pull my hair out (amazed at how dumb camera manufacturers can be about these types of menus when Panasonic has had fully-touch-enabled quick menus for years).
 

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